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16  Assistance / Configuring Pardus / Re: Not sure if this is a problem, but... on: November 05, 2008, 03:06:21 AM
Hi ch00k, here's the fstab.

# See the manpage fstab(5) for more information.
#   <fs>             <mountpoint>     <type>    <opts>               <dump/pass>
LABEL=PARDUS_ROOT    /                ext3      defaults,user_xattr,noatime 0 0
/.swap               none             swap      sw                   0 0
proc                 /proc            proc      nosuid,noexec        0 0
sysfs                /sys             sysfs     defaults             0 0
debugfs              /sys/kernel/debug debugfs   defaults             0 0
tmpfs                /dev/shm         tmpfs     nodev,nosuid,noexec  0 0
/dev/sda1            /mnt/sda1        ntfs-3g   dmask=007,fmask=117,gid=6,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 0

Yes, I see now, the last line refers to ntfs-3g. I wonder if that's a hangover from when that partition had Windows XP on it. I don't know why I would start getting error messages now, since Windows has been gone for a couple of months.

But I don't know if there's something else going on here.

17  Assistance / Configuring Pardus / Not sure if this is a problem, but... on: November 04, 2008, 04:15:11 AM
I turned on my computer tonight and booted into Pardus, the new kernel that was in the updates.

I got the familiar orange screen, then at the time the screen goes blank and I await the login screen, I saw a terminal prompt and some error messages. They went away and the login screen came up as usual.

When I got in, I went to the command prompt and saw the following lines.

* Mounting local filesystems
NTFS signature is missing
Failed to mount /dev/sda1: invalid argument
The device /dev/sda1 doesn't have a valid NTFS.
Maybe you selected the wrong device? Or the whole disk instead of a partition (e.g. /dev/hda, not /dev/hda1)? Or the other way around?

Then it proceeded as if nothing were wrong:

*Activating swap.
*Setting clock to hardware clock.

And so forth.

/dev/sda1 is actually an Ubuntu installation. Pardus is on /dev/sda6, and there's a swap. That's all, just three partitions.

Is this a fluke, or something that might become troublesome down the road?

18  General / General topics / Re: Default Desktop Enviroment on: November 04, 2008, 03:58:14 AM
Another vote for KDE3. I could have just as easily voted for Gnome, but I didn't want to annoy any more people than I already have.... Cheesy

KDE3 works. In my cosmology, "Just Works" is a hell of a lot more important to me than "Brand New" or "Looks Real Sharp". If I get in the mood to experiment, I'll find a spare partition on the basement computer and see if I can get Lenny to work. Pardus--hey, I live here, man! It's for getting stuff done!

The fact that our beloved Pardus development team has designed a KDE interface that is sleek and attractive, and not uglier than a kickboxer's brainscan, is a welcome bonus. If they go with KDE4, I'm sure that it'll be as good a KDE4 as you can get. I'm just not sure what "best possible KDE4" means right now.
19  General / General topics / Re: Show off your Desktop on: October 28, 2008, 19:49:39 PM
I stayed with one of the built-in wallpapers, the hyaena who has just eaten, uh, something....


Here's the same desktop, with Emacs open, as it usually is.

20  Assistance / Software / Re: Running WordPerfect in DOSEMU on: October 27, 2008, 16:02:44 PM
Why WordPerfect?

1. I've been using it since 1990 and know it inside and out.
2. Reveal Codes: without any question, the finest way to fine-tune and repair formatting.
3. Mail merge that works, much more versatile than that found in OpenOffice.
4. Absolutely customizable. I created a custom keyboard that turned WordPerfect into an editor for a very quirky version of SGML that my workplace was using for everything. Nobody else in the world could have typed their own name in it, but all I had to do was switch back to another standard keyboard to allow the rest of the human race (or at least Ms. Mourningdove) access to my computer.
5. In those 18 years, I might have lost two documents due to corruption. We've got WordPerfect 5.1 files that have survived two network servers, four or five standalone PCs, and more printers than I can even count, and are still perfectly readable. I wish .odt was as stable as .wpd, but sadly, that hasn't been my experience.
6. For automating tasks with macros, PerfectScript is a lot easier than OpenOffice Basic, at least for me; it also allows for cascading menus that make literally hundreds of keystroke combinations possible.

To be fair, then, why not WordPerfect?

1. Because the file format hasn't changed since about 1992, even the most recent versions of WordPerfect can't do Unicode, and texts that use a lot of international characters aren't going to go into other formats well.
2. The ownership has been unstable for years. Microsoft tried very hard to put WordPerfect out of business; they didn't succeed, but they came close, and got quite a lot of help from some of WordPerfect's various leadership teams.

WordPerfect 6.2, for DOS, might have been the best piece of office software ever written. The fact that they worked so hard to make it so close to perfect while the rest of the world was running to Windows tells you a lot of what you need to know about the company, but that doesn't change the fact that it is incredibly good.

21  General / General topics / Re: Most Popular Pardus Internet Browser on: October 26, 2008, 23:32:13 PM
I agree with rusev_ivo. Back in my Windows days, I was an unimpeachable Opera fanatic, but for whatever reason, I just can't get a good, legible look for Linux Opera. I should do some more research on this, but who has the time for everything?

And it's hard to argue with Firefox's arsenal of add-ons.
22  General / Wish list / Re: Coice Of Desktop Enviroment In YALI on: October 24, 2008, 02:34:49 AM
This is something Ubuntu does a really good job with. I installed kubuntu-desktop in an existing Ubuntu 8.04.1 install, and now at the login, I can choose either a Gnome or a KDE session. (I don't know if I can have three, or even more, sessions to choose from. I haven't tried.) If Pardus could offer a similar option, I think it would be only for the better.

I'm partial to Gnome, personally. It's simpler and more functional. But I may be the minority these days.

I will say that Pardus has the best KDE desktop I've tried. Having everything in Tasma instead of scattering configuration settings around in two or three locations made it a lot easier for me to get past the opening-night hassles and get down to work and play. I'd say that from sticking the install disc in my CD tray to doing something useful and everyday took me about 90 minutes in Pardus, which is pretty darn good. Also, Pardus-KDE isn't overloaded with eye candy. There are some seriously ugly KDE desktops out there!
23  General / Wish list / Re: [semi-solved] AbiWord, please? on: October 24, 2008, 02:21:20 AM
OK, I uninstalled the AbiWord from yesterday. Tonight, I ran the two lines of code posted by nkoc on 17 October and have a functioning AbiWord.

Those lines of code installed a lot of stuff: gcc and 26 other packages which looked like Gnome core files (I'm not sure what icecream-scheduler is).

But either I have an anomalous condition on this computer that interferes with the AbiWord package in the repo, or there's something not quite right about the package. I'm guessing it's the latter.
24  General / Wish list / Re: Evolution, please? on: October 24, 2008, 01:55:34 AM
I did notice this package but I am not fully sure what it means exactly, maybe you know it:


Hi Michiel, from what I understand, that's not the mail-and-calendar client itself, but a sort of internal database component that works with the Gnome desktop. It's something the Gnome-Pardus development people will definitely be needing.

I'm glad Evolution is at least in the experimental phase, but I probably shouldn't be using experimental packages Cheesy.

Since Evolution on Pardus would only be experimental for the time being, why don't you try other stable email clients, I'd reccomend Thunderbird (made by the Mozilla Foundation):

Hi Mhmrcs, I'm not withdrawing my request for Evolution Wink but thanks for the suggestion. It had been a long time since I looked at Thunderbird; I disliked an early Windows version I tried, but it's come a long way, and I think it will be OK -- even though it thinks I should only be allowed one SMTP! I'll know more in a few days when I get a bunch of filters going and try to backup the critical files and open them elsewhere. So I'm glad you talked me into trying T-Bird again.
25  General / Wish list / Evolution, please? on: October 23, 2008, 04:07:14 AM

I know it's another Gnome program, but I think it's far better than KMail. I work from home and get a lot of my assignments (and some of my work) through email; I tried to copy my KMail files to a flash drive for redundancy, and it borked; restoring onto another Pardus installation gave me a bunch of empty messages dated December 31, 1969. I know I've posted some crazed things on the Pardus Worldforum, but I do know how to do backups! I really can't trust KMail to keep track of my email, and it's my livelihood.

Evolution has a real live archiving/backup/restore system that I have tested successfully. It also works fine under KDE (I was running Mandriva 2008-Spring fairly regularly for a while), though I don't know what dependency issues there may be.

So I would deeply appreciate it if the package team would consider Evolution. It's really the only reason I have to kick into Ubuntu.
26  General / Wish list / Re: [solved]AbiWord, please? on: October 23, 2008, 03:43:24 AM

I tried to install the AbiWord PiSi on the special-needs computer, both from the updated contributor repo, and then directly from the link in your post. I uninstalled it after the first time.

When I try to launch AbiWord, I see the spinning logo in the main panel for about 10 or 15 seconds, then it goes away, and doesn't launch.

I haven't yet tried to install it on this computer with the method given by nkoc a few posts back. I did that on another computer and it worked OK. If I try it on this one, maybe we can learn if there's something wrong with the PiSi package or if there's some conflict on this particular computer. I'll try it tomorrow if I get a chance (very long day coming up), or else Friday, if that would be helpful.
27  Assistance / Pardus for beginners / Re: Accessing non-standard characters on: October 21, 2008, 17:59:49 PM

I am hoping for a keystroke-based system, i.e., meta + : + e = ë, meta + ` + e = è. But that KCharSelect utility (which I never would have found on my own) is a good start. I was just scrolling through the DejaVu tables in sheer amazement at all the stuff that's there.
28  General / Wish list / Re: [solved]AbiWord, please? on: October 21, 2008, 05:00:44 AM
I was feeling bold tonight, so I installed the wv dependency, then did those two lines as stated by nkoc, and everything works fine.

abisource's file site looks like this:

   Parent Directory        -
[ ]   MD5SUM   13-Jul-2008 15:29    240
[ ]   abiword-2.6.4.tar.gz   13-Jul-2008 15:28    8.8M
[ ]   abiword-docs-2.6.4.tar.gz   13-Jul-2008 15:28    1.4M
[ ]   abiword-extras-2.6.4.tar.gz   13-Jul-2008 15:28    2.0M
[ ]   abiword-plugins-2.6.4.tar.gz   13-Jul-2008 15:28    1.7M

If I wanted to install the abiword-extras (which includes the spell checker) and abiword-plugins, how should I best proceed?

Thanks again. Even without the extras, this'll be a big help on the special-needs computer.
29  Assistance / Pardus for beginners / (Solved!) Accessing non-standard characters on: October 20, 2008, 05:21:52 AM
In another post, the name of a Pardus developer, Serdar Dalgıç, was mentioned. It got me to thinking:

I use the US-standard keyboard. In the event that I have to access a character that isn't in the American alphabet (and there are two of them in the name "Dalgıç"), what's the best way of going about doing that? If I'm in OpenOffice, that's easy enough, but there should be a system-wide way, so I could use accented letters and Unicode characters in, for instance, Firefox or Emacs. I'm sure there is, I just don't know how to find it.

Thanks in advance!
30  General / Wish list / Re: [solved]AbiWord, please? on: October 20, 2008, 05:16:59 AM
Cool! From what Serdar Dalgıç said, I shouldn't have to wait a whole long time for wv to make it into the repo. I have one PC downstairs that I'm not using for work, maybe I'll try building AbiWord with that svn command on that one.
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