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46  Assistance / Software / Re: KAddressBook on: August 30, 2008, 03:07:42 AM
Hi Andreas,

The only files I can find in that directory are C header files, no data files.

(A few minutes later) Aha! Found it! system:/home/.kde/share/apps/kabc

That's where I have about 20 .vcf files, mostly identical (I've only got three contacts in there so far, because I didn't want to get carried away before learning what to do with them all!).

They cleverly stored it under /apps/kabc instead of /apps/kaddressbook, which is where I looked.

I'll figure out why there are so many of them there one of these days.

Best wishes,

47  Assistance / Software / [Solved!] KAddressBook on: August 29, 2008, 04:34:54 AM
I started loading my contacts into KAddressBook. Does anybody happen to know where the data files are kept? I'd like to keep them safely backed up and/or copy them to other computers when I get Pardus safely installed on them.

48  General / The Pub / Re: Browser on: August 23, 2008, 04:35:48 AM
Back in the dreary old days when all I had was Windows, I used Opera for just about all of my Web activities, and avoided all the others. I tried Firefox and thought it was slow and used a lot of resources.

Today, I mostly use Firefox on Linux. (I'm a Vista refugee. I got a new laptop last fall with Vista preinstalled, and after about two days I knew there had to be a better way.) For my job, I have to fill in Web forms a couple hours a day, and a Firefox add-on called It's All Text! allows you to use your preferred editor (in my case, that is Emacs, but I know it also works with OpenOffice Writer). It makes life easier.

When I learned that the Pardus repos had Opera 9.51, I installed it. Maybe I'll try importing all my bookmarks into it tonight or tomorrow, just to see what it's like. The Windows version of Opera 9 didn't like my job's Web site, so I was stuck in the 8.x "time warp" for a long time.

(I couldn't figure out how to actually vote!)
49  Assistance / Software / Re: [solved]Trying to install Dosemu on: August 23, 2008, 02:51:13 AM
It is my pleasure to confirm that pisi li xorg-proto led to a perfect dosemu install, following the instructions in PhiX's post, #6 on this thread.

Atolboo, how on earth did you figure that out???

I haven't installed any DOS programs yet -- I need to customize a few things to make WordPerfect run, and after a ten-hour day I probably won't get to it tonight -- but the directory structure is recognizable, and I don't anticipate any trouble.

I'm gratified that my beginner question unearthed a way to make Pardus Linux even more versatile.

In case there are any old-school WordPerfectionists reading this thread, you'll want to know about:


It's the Linux part of Edward Mendelsohn's stunning WordPerfect for DOS Updated site. You will have to tweak your dosemu.conf and a couple of system files for maximum performance, but the tweaks are well-explained and quite easy.

50  Assistance / Software / Re: Trying to install Dosemu on: August 22, 2008, 01:36:23 AM

I tried deleting the whole /dosemu-1.4.0 directory and re-extracting from the .tgz just now, and I was able to set the terminal history to "unlimited." And yeah, I have the same warning, X.c:226:19: warning: X11/X.h: No such file or directory. The next 20 or 30 lines after that look very close, or identical, to what was in your make-konsole.txt file.


I ran pisi up and PiSi installed baselayout-contrib, xine-lib, mplayer, ffmpeg, and amarok. I did that before the operations I just described to Atolboo, and make gave me the same number of warnings and errors. I can upload the log file if it would be helpful.

A more general question -- should I run pisi up every now and then, just as a habit? Or did you suggest that more for a one-time troubleshooting tactic?



51  Assistance / Software / Re: Trying to install Dosemu on: August 21, 2008, 05:00:53 AM
Yeah, it looked like a mess. I do appreciate the time all of you you have put into this problem. Would it be appropriate for me to send it to the Pardus Bugzilla?
52  Assistance / Software / Re: Trying to install Dosemu on: August 21, 2008, 00:25:39 AM
Oh yeah, I wanted to mention, I've accepted all the "upgradeable packages" that PiSi the cat has offered to me. As far as my personal modifications go, I added Emacs and Opera from the PiSi repo, three Firefox add-ons from Firefox, and a couple of my Windows programs into Wine (sorry, but there are two that I haven't been able to replace with pure Linux). I haven't (knowingly) done anything else. It should be a relatively fresh and undamaged system. Of course, "undamaged" and "Mourningdove" don't always go together Smiley .


53  Assistance / Software / Re: Trying to install Dosemu on: August 21, 2008, 00:20:12 AM
I just blew away the /dosemu-1.4.0 directory and tried again from the start, doing the "extract here" from the .tgz.

Attached is the output of ./configure, clipped directly from Konsole.

Also attached is some or most of the output from make. It looks like the output exceeded Konsole's display capabilities and I lost some stuff at the beginning. I'm not sure what to do about that, except perhaps to do a
ls -l make >> makelog3.txt
(is that the right syntax? I still have to look many commands up), which I certainly will do if it would be helpful.

54  Assistance / Software / Re: Trying to install Dosemu on: August 20, 2008, 14:36:45 PM
If it's any help, here's my config.log, renamed to config.txt for uploading here. If it would be more helfpul if I redirected the output from the ./configure command directly to a file, I could do that, but I...uh...couldn't figure out how.
55  Assistance / Software / Re: Trying to install Dosemu on: August 20, 2008, 02:07:07 AM

Thanks for the very detailed instructions. Unfortunately, I verified that I had all the requirements, ran the commands exactly as indicated (I'm a pretty good typist), and ended up with the same 1,641 errors and 51 warnings. Most of those that I could see looked something like:

X.c.(linenumber):error: expected '=', ',', ';', 'asm' or '_attribute_' before '{' token.

There were a few others sprinkled in, but that was the format of the majority that I could see scrolling by. I don't know enough about programming to tell whether these indicated an internal problem with the DOSEMU files or miscommunication with the general Pardus structure.

To verify that I didn't have a flawed .tgz, I downloaded it again. Besides running it from the KDE terminal, I ran the same sequence (./configure, make) from the Ctrl-Alt-F1 terminal, and got the same results. So it doesn't have anything to do with KDE or X, if I understand that correctly.

At least for the time being, I feel like I've run into a showstopper. In any other way I've tried so far, Pardus is either as good as or better than any other distro I've tried. But either I'm missing something (which is entirely possible) or I'll have to boot into another distro to use DOS programs.

56  Assistance / Software / Re: Trying to install Dosemu on: August 18, 2008, 23:57:34 PM
Have you compiled dosemu with make before trying to install it with make install ?

Thanks for replying. No suggestion is too elementary, and the answer is "no," I just tried it, though, with the following results:

$ make
make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found. Stop.

$ make dosemu-freedos-bin.tgz
make: Nothing to be done for 'dosemu-freedos-bin.tgz'.

Maybe I should unpack it?

(A few minutes later) Okay,

tar zxvf dosemu-freedos-bin.tgz

worked for quite a while. At the end, it told me there were 1641 errors and 51 warnings. That sounded bad, but I ran make install anyway, and I have a few sample configuration files in my /etc, but I don't know what happened to the rest of it; there's nothing in /bin or /sbin that I can find.
57  Assistance / Software / Re: Trying to install Dosemu on: August 18, 2008, 22:08:01 PM
Hello Andreas, thanks for replying. I installed all three of those packages (I installed gcc and make last night, and kernel-source this morning) and shut down for the day. I just got back and attempted

make install

while in the directory I created to store the .tgz file, and I got the same error message:

make: ***no rule to make target 'install'. Stop.

Is there anything else I might be missing or forgetting?

58  Assistance / Software / [solved]Trying to install Dosemu on: August 18, 2008, 03:38:21 AM
I downloaded Dosemu 1.4 and followed the instructions given in the INSTALL file:

2a. Install

- download dosemu-freedos-<version>bin.tgz from dosemu.org or one of its
  mirrors and rename it to dosemu-freedos-bin.tgz
- su - (become root)
- make install

2b. Update

- su - (become root)
- make install

The first time I ran that, I got an error message that the command "make" wasn't available. I ran a
piso it make
(I believe that was the syntax) as su, and that worked. Now, when I try the make install command, I get:

make: ***no rule to make target 'install'. Stop.

What should I do now?

Thanks for any help. Obviously, I'm used to package managers, not command-line installation procedures, so no suggestions will be too basic.
59  General / Wish list / Two repo requests on: August 16, 2008, 03:40:36 AM
Hello everybody! I installed Pardus two or three days ago after reading http://wamukota.blogspot.com/2008/06/pardus-2008-testdrive.html, and I love it already. There are only two things that I can't seem to find in the repositories and that I'd have trouble living without.

1. Evolution. I could probably learn to live with KMail, but I've been living with Evolution for months on other distros. (I know there would probably be a lot of dependencies and maybe not an easy task for the PiSi package builders, but it would really be appreciated.)


2. DOSEMU. I have found DOSbox in the repo, but most people who still need or use the old business applications, like Q&A and WordPerfect 5.1, find that DOSEMU is more for them. DOSbox, I understand, does a good job with games.


Outside of that, Pardus is just about perfect. It's fast on my computer (most KDE distributions are a lot slower) and I was able to set up my favorite Webradio sites with no problems. I can say already that if anybody around here asks me to help them get started in Linux, I would try Pardus first.

I would like to say, thanks for having Emacs 23 in the repo. Not everybody has that one yet.

On edit: just read the first thread, and saw that Andreas wished us to link to the sources. I hope these links are what is wanted.
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