Hello
I filed a request for Kmess in Parus 2009. >  http://bugs.pardus.org.tr/show_bug.cgi?id=10834  > also requested Emesene have not heard back on it yet if it would be added. I know Emesene 1.01 is no longer supported, waiting to release new version 1.5.

Hello
Have not been to the forum for awhile I thought I had  marked this thread as solved after I figured out how to hold the updates back and able to install on appl. or program without being forced to take the unwanted updates.

To install a update you want and hold back all the other ones you do not want > su pisi upgrade (package name ) --ignore-safety   (have to do this for each update you want)

To install a new appl. or package you want and holds back all unwanted updates > su pisi it (appl. or package name) --ignore-safety  ( it will install all dependences)

I have been using the above and have not had any issues. I have Pardus setup the way I want and the appls. I use. I wasn't for sure if I would  have problems with the above but system is stable no lockups or issues, working great. It is a real pain having to do things this way but if you want to use Pardus but don't want the forced on you updates this works. I am only going to keep Pardus a few more weeks than I am done with it. Have some new releases of other Linux OSes coming out, so I don't have to put up with these issues of updating & installing.

Hello Mhmrcs

No I am not saying not to update but be careful what you update and never a kernel update. Their are somethings you may need to update but with Pardus you have no choice but to update everything. Or don't use Pardus.

Yes their is. I use to update my kernel in my other systems that I had. I have never yet seen anything different after updating the kernel. Besides creating isses like broken modules where it breakes USB, sound. video, etc. IMO  kernel updates are for people who does not have anything better to do than fix and repair their systems. When I install an OS which is always a fresh install, If everything is detected and works which is normal for me, my computer is very Linux friendly. Why play with it. What I have learned using Linux, watch what you update and stay away from kernel updates. I use 8 different Linux OS which all are rock solid stable. I like using my systems not repairing them. Linux is about choice, Pardus is forcing user to take the updates, if you don't you can't install the other appls. you need to use your system. Very bad feature for Linux users.

I filed a bug report. It is not a bug. > http://bugs.pardus.org.tr/show_bug.cgi?id=8564 > This is a bad feature for me to continue using Pardus . It's very sad that we are forced to take updates we don't want or need.  This is the first and only OS I have ever used that I can not hold back updates from being installed. Their is nothing more I can do with Pardus.  Well it looks like I now have an extra partition to use.

Hi PhiX
This is what I was trying to figureout. Is it a bug or this is the the feature or design of Pisi. If it is a feature than Pardus is not going to work for me and that is to bad. Cause I like Pardus but I will not install updates that I don't want or need. I will file a bug report and see what happens.

I learned of Pardus from a very nice article on FOSSwire.

Hello atolboo
Finally someone else sees this huge issue and problem.

You are missing my point. Their are alot of updates that I do not want to install. I want to hold them back from being installed. If I pick the updates I want, when I go to install those the ones I don't want tries to install also. If I go to Package Manager and try to install a package or appl. the updates wants to install with it. What am I missing to hold these updates from being installed ?

Hello
Why is it everytime I try to hold back updates they are still trying to be installed. > sudo pisi upgrade -x (typed in 47 package) I want held back and still tried to install them. Go to the Package Manager pick what updates I want but all will  be installed anyway. I want to install > pidgin-libnotify > well can not do that without taking all updates. I know when using Synaptic and I want to install a package I can without getting all the updates being rammed down my throat. All my other systems I can pick & choose what I want to update or upgrade with no problems. What am I missing here with Pardus ? Pardus is running great, but these updates or upgrade issues and trying to install things I need are becoming a real big issue. (installed Pardus 2008.1 a month ago)

Hello
Thank You everyone for your input & help. It is really appreciated.
Well I uninstalled lm-sensors than reinstalled. This time when I ran sensors-detect it worked as it should. I now have Gkrellm & lm-sensors setup. Everything is good.

Hi Michiel
Yes I am sure I did but will double check to make sure. I am not on Pardus now will check later. Thank You for your input and suggestion

Hello atolboo
I have not run across that their was a Pardus Wiki. Thank You for the link. Yes I have tried sudo & su sensors-detect nothing works. Normally when I run sensors-detect it starts up and scans your chip sets answer the questions, but in Pardus all it does is goes to a new line in the terminal. It is like I don't have lm-sensors installed or their are missing dependences.  I have setup 25-30 different systems with lm-sensors and help that many more people on various Linux forums with lm-sensors issues. This is why I am confused why I am having problems with it in Pardus. Only thing I have not tried is maybe try and uninstall lm-sensors than reinstall see if that will work. Thank You atolboo

Hello Michiel
Thank you for your reply & input

Yes I installed lm sensors through PISI. No I have never tried getting it to work before in Pardus. But have setup the lm-sensors many of times in different distros. I have never had to compile lm-sensors before every distro has always had everything I need in their repos. I will submit a request for a new PISI package. Also will check out lm-sensors website to see what else I need to do to try and get it setup in Pardus. Thanks Again
http://www.lm-sensors.org/

Hello
Trying to setup lm-sensors to use with Gkrellm. Have setup many times before. I installed the package lm-sensors but with no dependences which should have had libsensors3or4. Can't find it in the package manager and also libsensors-dev is needed. Are they listed under another name or in another package that I need to install ? Or doesn't the Package Manager show all dependences being installed ? Normally after installing lm-sensors I just need to run > sudo sensors-detect > to setup.  Or is their a different command to run in Pardus ? Using Pardus 2008.1 KDE3.