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46  General / The Pub / Re: What are you listening to? on: July 04, 2012, 18:21:13 PM
the well pump clicking on every few minutes as I water and water and water as we are experiencing a drought with temperatures in the triple digits for two weeks now.  Thank the Lord for the well water!  I just picked four lovely cucumbers.
Otherwise, the song in my head is "Suddenly Last Summer" from The Motels.   All from flipping the tv channel to "80's at Eight" last night, That and "West End Girls" from the Pet Shop Boys.  I haven't heard these songs since that time period. 
47  General / General topics / Re: Remind me, why do I use Pardus? on: July 02, 2012, 18:16:11 PM
Yes, this is all new to me in what is taking place, so it is kind of bewildering as I don't know how the process is done, and I'm not good at decision making.
I posted the above as it is my way of saying what I would like to see in Pardus.  If you asked me directly, I would have gotten tongue tied. 
And if I had to vote for a name, it would be Toros or Coruh, the former being a mountain, and the latter being a northeastern valley in Turkey that sees lots of migration of birds, lots of diverse plants and animals.  I'd like to see the name be a Turkish word, not a Greek word.  Latin is okay.  Wink
Lisa Marie
48  General / General topics / Remind me, why do I use Pardus? on: July 01, 2012, 17:44:21 PM
Want to know what is great and not so great about Pardus, as sometimes I forget and take Pardus for granted after using it for so many years now.  Go and look up reviews on Pardus 2007, 2008 and 2009 releases and you'll get an idea. 
 
{I can sum up the main reason I tried Pardus in the first place was PiSi and how it only needed to download parts of an update without having to retrieve the entire update package.  Being on dial up, this meant time-saver for me.  I think by now other distros are using this method, or maybe some were at the time PiSi was created, but not the ones I was trying)

http://desktoplinuxreviews.com/2009/07/23/pardus-linux-2009/
Comment #19 'for kids'
(that's one of the other main things that attracted me to Pardus, the artwork.  I must be a kid, at heart!)

What I kept seeing repeated from reviewers: ran out of box, no problem with codec or flash, installer not boring, not another debian or fedora knockoff, surprise of the elegant well-done desktop look,

 
indepth summary of Pardus
https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/elibrary/case/new-kid-block-turkish-pardus-linux-distribution-0

According to link above, the inception in 2003 Pardus project consisted of four people!  and another snippet of interest, 'UEKAE\'s charter statement has national technological independence, security and cost savings as the main goals. Pardus is related to all these goals, thus it is very natural for UEKAE to support Pardus”.  and, what I think is one thing of importance is Turkish localization, 'This national project is Turkey\'s contribution to the variety of GNU/Linux distributions. But more important for the sponsors and project, Pardus gives Turkish GNU/Linux users language independence. Developers in the project managed to customize and integrate the Zemberek Turkish natural language processing software with Pardus so that users have access to Turkish spell checking and grammar facilities in their word processing (OpenOffice), text and chat (Kopete), Calendar (kontact), and emailing (Mailman) software.'
It also mentions funding.  Will we have donations as after all, running a server isn't cheap, all the eye-strain, brain strain is hard work on the developers.)

customisable Kaptan, versatile Tasma control centre
http://bulletspawn.wordpress.com/2008/07/08/pardus-2008-review/
(I would like to see Tasma kept, though don't know if it only works in KDE 3.5.10 as it was available in the Corporate Edition.  KDE settings are numerous, and Tasma simplified it.)

Simple to use, 'granny can work with Pardus without problems'
http://www.desktoplinux.com/articles/AT3075127327.html

'What is the point of this distro? What are the goals?...Are the devs trying to unseat the big dogs like Ubuntu or Fedora...'
http://fosswire.com/post/2008/07/pardus-2008-review/
(Diversity is a good thing)

'I'm absolutely furious that supporting Pardus means adding a new package format.'
http://www.planetoss.com/reviews/pardus-2008-rc1-great-distro-ahead/
(I for one like this about Pardus.  Two main distros, two main packaging formats, to me means all eggs in one basket, as the saying goes.  Not good.  Diversity is good, having more choices is good.  I think of the tree farms in the state os Arkansas.  They are all planted in one type of hybrid Pine.  If the conditions were right, it would only take one disease or one insect to wipe them all out.

For Pardus 2011, the main problem I kept seeing crop up was wireless connection not working, and time it took to port packages from previous Pardus version to newest release.   
49  Assistance / Download/Repos / Re: Repos for 2011 on: June 30, 2012, 01:06:49 AM
Correct, I did remove the anka testing repo.  Oops. 

Thanks atolboo!  I removed the suggested parduslife repo and added the current Pardus repo.  All is well. 

I was wanting to update Firefox which is why I did the above.  I see there is also an nss update from pardususer.  I understand now why you have asked about the i686 anka source.  Hopefully it will come soon and you will then be even busier!!  But, hopefully you are sleeping soundly as it is late where you are and this can wait for tomorrow as I have my repos set up correctly now.
Regards, Lisa Marie
50  Assistance / Download/Repos / Re: Repos for 2011 on: June 29, 2012, 21:26:35 PM
Hello,
I just tried adding pardususer and parduslife back to my repo list after having pardus-linux org as main repo when I made the switch to Anka, but I am getting error:
Code:
pisi lr
pardususer [active]
   http://pakete.pardususer.de/pardus-2011/x86_64/pisi-index.xml.xz
pardus-linuxorg [active]
   http://paketler.pardus-linux.org/P2011/x86_64/pisi-index.xml.xz
parduslife [active]
   http://parduslife-repo.no-ip.org/p2011/x86_64/pisi-index.xml.xz
mee@pardus2012alph ~ $ sudo pisi up
Password:
Sorry, try again.
Password:
Updating repositories
Updating repository: pardususer
pisi-index.xml.xz.sha1sum      (40.0  B)100%    365.71 KB/s [00:00:00] [complete]
pisi-index.xml.xz              (134.0 KB)100%      5.40 KB/s [00:00:00] [complete]
No signature found for http://pakete.pardususer.de/pardus-2011/x86_64/pisi-index.xml.xz
Package database updated.
Updating repository: pardus-linuxorg
pisi-index.xml.xz.sha1sum      (40.0  B)100%    382.80 KB/s [00:00:00] [complete]
pisi-index.xml.xz              (39.0 KB)100%      5.40 KB/s [00:00:00] [complete]
No signature found for http://paketler.pardus-linux.org/P2011/x86_64/pisi-index.xml.xz
Package database updated.
Updating repository: parduslife
parduslife repository needs to be updated
parduslife repository needs to be updated
parduslife repository needs to be updated
parduslife repository needs to be updated
Program terminated.
Could not fetch destination file "http://parduslife-repo.no-ip.org/p2011/x86_64/pisi-index.xml.xz.sha1sum": [Errno 14] PYCURL ERROR 7 - ""
Please use 'pisi help' for general help.
P.S.  You can move this post as it probably should have been placed in Assistance section. 
51  General / General topics / Re: Spirit of Pardus. on: June 29, 2012, 21:16:08 PM
I wanted to reply to this thread as I fully agree with jasperodus' fifth paragraph, which also seems to be along the lines of what Dirse is saying.  After seeing what my husband has gone through as an engineer, a very true statement about governments and how they can change, dropping a good thing which is wasteful.  

Consider me a user, like in the movie, Tron, but I'm still enjoying Pardus, even after installing and using a Mandriva knock off os.  I've never used Mandriva before and I have to say, Pardus still should be proud of their os.  I definitely like the Package Manager.  You don't know how great Pardus is until you try another distro, even though those distros have many more available packages, but that is because they are tied at the waste with the two major ones that most distros are knock offs of.  

I am also quite amazed at the responsibility being taken here and watching the progress.  The one thing I really like about Pardus is that the community may be small but it has big ideas and big compassion.   I can make myself laugh...I think I meant passion or fervor. 
Lisa Marie
52  Assistance / News & Announcements / Re: Domain name Pardusworld.com is available for you on: June 08, 2012, 17:53:56 PM
Yes, some sites at our local library have some sites blocked, some of which are innocent enough, but the person in charge of blocking sites is ignorant to it as they sign up for some general site blocking list - who knows who comes up with these lists?  Unless one contacts them and asks why a certain site is blocked, they will never check on it and decide themselves whether it can be unblocked or no. 

I was wondering if these domains like pardus worldforum have a minimum contract period, like six months, a year, monthly?  And if the contract is about to come up, maybe then a decision can be made whether to the international forum to another domain.  It would be a waste of money to have paid up until a certain time and switch it before then.  I know nothing of these matters.  Embarrassed

We do need a site accessible by all. 
53  Assistance / Bugs / System policy GUI problem in Pardus 2011 on: May 26, 2012, 17:18:52 PM
System policy problem.  I've noticed a problem with this since using Pardus 2011.2 and maybe it occurred in the first release, not sure. The system policy GUI that comes up when, for example, installing packages in package-manager or other GUI's that need authorization, that it never remembers my choice of 'for this session only' and 'remember authorization' (the latter is ticked by default). 
In previous Pardus releases I have always un-ticked 'remember authorization' and after that, the GUI always remembers my setting whenever it comes up again in the future.  I like to type in my password for security purposes and not have it done automatically. 
Now, whether I un-tick 'remember authorization' or tick, 'for this session only' it doesn't act accordingly.  I wondered if anyone else has noticed this?  I am part of 'wheel' group. 
Lisa Marie
54  Assistance / News & Announcements / Re: Pardus ... back to the future? on: May 26, 2012, 17:07:01 PM
Okay, I fount it in package-manager and installed it.  All is very good now, can't do without my konsole.
55  Assistance / News & Announcements / Re: Pardus ... back to the future? on: May 26, 2012, 16:25:25 PM
Ah, swooshing success this time.  I had to go on a long drive yesterday and came home to retry getting the last downloads.  Still had server stall problems but I was persistent and just kept, sudo pisi upping, to get all 181 packages.  On the first try I had managed to save all of the packages I had cached before I got the modprobe error and couldn't log in, so that saved me some time re-retrieving those. 

A very good job on the ANKA release from the pardus linux folks!  They've been busy and I appreciate there work on this.
The only thing I notice from the start is there is no entry for some applications, like konsole, unless I just can't see it because of the default black theme.  But looking at KDE menu items, there is no icon for konsole or synergy.  Synergy does start its GUI but when I click on konsole, I don't see it anywhere.  I'll look some more after I eat breakfast that is getting cold.  Coffee is hot, though.   Wink
Regards, Lisa Marie
56  General / General topics / Re: Update Worldforum on: May 25, 2012, 15:52:47 PM
Yes, that is a big job, to maintain a webpage.  Thank you, Michiel, for all your work done here!  I'm sure I have caused grief when I have had modified my reply, .....more than once, and then while doing so to get disconnected from internet and have to log back in and modify once more. 

Congratulations, richdb.   This is good news.  Hopefully you'll find ways to detract spammers at the same time as easily letting new folks sign up here.
Regards, Lisa Marie
57  Assistance / News & Announcements / Re: Pardus ... back to the future? on: May 25, 2012, 15:47:24 PM
Hi richdb,

Thank you very much for doing so!  I'm still experimenting with increasing those timeout values under connection preferences. I've always left them at default previously, as it is something I've never had to alter in the past, but the kde help book does suggest if one has a slow connection, to change these, but they don't suggest to what. so I am having guesses at it.  The pardus linux org site/server is the only one I am having problem with, but I was able to bring up their webpage after waiting several minutes, more than normal for most web pages.

Back to watering the garden.  Smiley 
Lisa Marie
58  Assistance / News & Announcements / Re: Pardus ... back to the future? on: May 25, 2012, 14:40:43 PM
A second try on upgrading to this alpha ANKA release from pardus linux org and still having problems with their server stalling on retrieving packages.  I painstakingly got the packages available the first try, and when I rebooted computer, I got a scrolling message:
modprobe fatal error inserting microcode /lib/modules/3.2.5/kernal/arch/x86_64....microcode.ko and at login, the caps lock and num lock lights were blinking and I couldn't use the keyboard.  So I started over in case it was because I had partially installed some of the updates, like the kernel and its dependencies before getting all of the updates propertly installed prior to reboot.

So, a fresh Pardus 2011.2 install, all updates retrieved for main Pardus repo. 

Then did as recommended here:
http://www.pardus-linux.org/haberler/2012/05/pardus-2012-codename-anka
same as suggested here, and once again I am getting server stalls.  I correct myself above that it only happens on packages that take about 12 minutes to retrieve, but this happens on packages that are roughly larger than 300.0 kb.  If I set my timer, it seems to happen after one minute passes.
What I have tried is removing the default nameservers from resolv.conf and used 3com/Verizon free dns instead, and that seemed to improve things just a bit, where I could at least download files less than 1.4mb, but still I would get the http error 206, as well as http error 200.  I then tried using firefox to go to the pardus linux org website, and it wouldn't come up.  I have no other problems getting packages from pardus repo or pardususer repo, or visiting other webpages, so this has to be on their side (pardus linux org).   I tried on last thing, by going into system settings>network settings> connection preferences and increased some of the values for timeouts, but this did not help.

So, just a plea to someone who can let pardus linux org know about this problem for dial up user.  I have had a similar problem a few years ago when I tried open suse and every time I tried to get updates, they would stall.  The admin of the server fixed it by increasing the timeout period as he had it narrow to prevent spam on his server.  That fixed that problem for those of us who were using dial up.  I could carry on, but this is taking forever, and I have to babysit the computer to keep an eye on when the stalls occur and do another "sudo pisi up" to continue from where it left off downloading the package, or use wget to retrieve it. 

Thank you!

59  Assistance / News & Announcements / Re: Pardus ... back to the future? on: May 23, 2012, 02:21:00 AM
I figured it had something to do with server not liking slow connections.  I doubt it is on my side, but probably the server(s) the packages are kept.  I have no problems downloading small sized packages, but those that take + or - 12 minutes or longer stall, saying an updated version is probably available, so I then use wget to get them.  Tedious.  I'm getting there, but at this point I don't want to restart my computer as I haven't gotten all of the packages.  I have so far gotten the kernel and its dependencies and then got baselayout and then tried installing kdebase and its dependecies, but there are some conflicts with the older packages already installed, so, I'll just have to try and get all updates, instead of major components as I usually do to shorten the dial up time at any given time.  Erser.  Back to watering the plants. 
60  Assistance / News & Announcements / Re: Pardus ... back to the future? on: May 22, 2012, 19:17:59 PM
Thanks. richdb.  I did remove those packages, but I continue to get HTTP Error 206 for the kernel.  I'm using konsole.  I'll go back to getting the rest of it via wget, as even though it has had to retry over 15 times, at least I do not have to sit here and keep an eye on the modem lights to make sure the download continues, wget will do that for me and retry.  I've already got 70% of file.  I've never had this happen before, but did have problems downloading nvidia package a year ago, but in that case, it would always stall at the time point in the download file size, where as in this case, the stall happens after a few minutes, no matter how much of file is partially downloaded.  Almost there.... Wink
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