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736  General / Introduce yourself / Re: I finally made it to the good ship Pardus, from Arkansas, US on: October 12, 2008, 22:44:31 PM
Hello tuxedup,

Thank you for the welcome!  You have  a good excuse as you are busy being a developer. 

Maybe I should welcome you.  Wink

Lisa Marie
737  General / As seen on the internet / Re: Pardus team at CEBIT 2008 on: October 12, 2008, 20:14:03 PM
 Cheesy I caught that, waf! 
I'm probably old enough to be your mom - will be in my mid-40's come January.   Shocked
Pinar is pretty.
Nice to see them having a cd give away for others to try out Pardus! 

Lisa Marie
738  General / General topics / Re: [solved] multiple boot windows XP with more than one Linux OS on: October 12, 2008, 19:08:04 PM
I worked on this yesterday after receiving the other distro my husband sent to me.  I have xp, the second distro, and Pardus 2008.1.  XP and first distro are on the first  hard drive, with a NTFS storage partition between XP and ext3 distro partition, and a swap partition at the end.  On second hard drive I installed Pardus and chose not to install bootloader.  Then, went into first distro and from there I tried to find the menu.lst in mounted Pardus, but of course it wasn't there as I didn't install bootloader to it.  So, hard way, as I'm not using a live disk, I did a second install  of Pardsu on second hd just after the Pardus partition, this time installing bootloader to the second Pardus partition, so I could look at the menu.lst.  There's probably an easier way to find this out, and I could have also asked one of you to list what is in your Pardus 2008.1 menu.lst, but I was able to mount the second Pardus install and look at the menu.lst which I copied as an entry in the second distro's menu.lst, making sure I used (hd1,0) and not (hd1,1) as was listed in the second Pardus install.

Sorry about the long output in code.  I was trying to get it in its own scrollable window. 

# menu.lst - See: grub(8), info grub, update-grub(8)
#            grub-install(8), grub-floppy(8),
#            grub-md5-crypt, /usr/share/doc/grub
#            and /usr/share/doc/grub-legacy-doc/.

## default num
# Set the default entry to the entry number NUM. Numbering starts from 0, and
# the entry number 0 is the default if the command is not used.
# You can specify 'saved' instead of a number. In this case, the default entry
# is the entry saved with the command 'savedefault'.
# WARNING: If you are using dmraid do not change this entry to 'saved' or your
# array will desync and will not let you boot your system.
default 0


## timeout sec
# Set a timeout, in SEC seconds, before automatically booting the default entry
# (normally the first entry defined).
timeout 10

# Pretty colours
color cyan/blue white/blue

## password ['--md5'] passwd
# If used in the first section of a menu file, disable all interactive editing
# control (menu entry editor and command-line)  and entries protected by the
# command 'lock'
# e.g. password topsecret
#      password --md5 $1$gLhU0/$aW78kHK1QfV3P2b2znUoe/
# password topsecret

# examples
# title Windows 95/98/NT/2000
# root (hd0,0)
# makeactive
# chainloader +1
# title Linux
# root (hd0,1)
# kernel /vmlinuz root=/dev/hda2 ro

# Put static boot stanzas before and/or after AUTOMAGIC KERNEL LIST

## lines between the AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST markers will be modified
## by the debian update-grub script except for the default options below

## DO NOT UNCOMMENT THEM, Just edit them to your needs

## ## Start Default Options ##
## default kernel options
## default kernel options for automagic boot options
## If you want special options for specific kernels use kopt_x_y_z
## where x.y.z is kernel version. Minor versions can be omitted.
## e.g. kopt=root=/dev/hda1 ro
##      kopt_2_6_8=root=/dev/hdc1 ro
##      kopt_2_6_8_2_686=root=/dev/hdc2 ro
# kopt=root=/dev/sda6 ro

## default grub root device
## e.g. groot=(hd0,0)
# groot=(hd0,5)

## should update-grub create alternative automagic boot options
## e.g. alternative=true
##      alternative=false
# alternative=true

## should update-grub lock alternative automagic boot options
## e.g. lockalternative=true
##      lockalternative=false
# lockalternative=false

## additional options to use with the default boot option, but not with the
## alternatives
## e.g. defoptions=vga=791 resume=/dev/hda5
# defoptions=quiet splash

## should update-grub lock old automagic boot options
## e.g. lockold=false
##      lockold=true
# lockold=false

## Xen hypervisor options to use with the default Xen boot option
# xenhopt=

## Xen Linux kernel options to use with the default Xen boot option
# xenkopt=console=tty0

## altoption boot targets option
## multiple altoptions lines are allowed
## e.g. altoptions=(extra menu suffix) extra boot options
##      altoptions=(single-user) single
# altoptions=(recovery mode) single

## controls how many kernels should be put into the menu.lst
## only counts the first occurence of a kernel, not the
## alternative kernel options
## e.g. howmany=all
##      howmany=7
# howmany=all

## should update-grub create memtest86 boot option
## e.g. memtest86=true
##      memtest86=false
# memtest86=true

## should update-grub adjust the value of the default booted system
## can be true or false
# updatedefaultentry=false

## should update-grub add savedefault to the default options
## can be true or false
# savedefault=false

## ## End Default Options ##

title Linux Mint 5 KDE CE, kernel 2.6.24-19-generic
root (hd0,5)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-19-generic root=/dev/sda6 ro quiet splash
initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.24-19-generic

title Linux Mint 5 KDE CE, kernel 2.6.24-19-generic (recovery mode)
root (hd0,5)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-19-generic root=/dev/sda6 ro single
initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.24-19-generic

title Linux Mint 5 KDE CE, kernel memtest86+
root (hd0,5)
kernel /boot/memtest86+.bin


# This is a divider, added to separate the menu items below from the Debian
# ones.
title Other operating systems:

# This I configured to add Pardus to menu items
# on /dev/sdb1
title Pardus 2008.1 Hyaena hyaena
root (hd1,0)
kernel /boot/kernel- root=LABEL=PARDUS_ROOT vga=791 splash=silent quiet
initrd /boot/initramfs-

# This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for a non-linux OS
# on /dev/sda1
title Microsoft Windows XP Professional
root (hd0,0)
chainloader +1

My first attempt I left off the root=LABEL, etc and when I clicked on Pardus at boot splash, it showed only console output and ended with "could not find boot device /bin/sh; can't access tty; job control turned off".  So, I added that bit and it works fine.  After I made sure all os's booted properly, I deleted the second Pardus install.   I made a backup of the menu.lst just in case if things didn't work out, or if a kernel update messes up the whole thing.  Ubuntu based distros are bad about having many, many updates when the system is still new, and many of these will be kernel updates.  I'll add to this if I have any problems with my particular lay-out.  I may have to rearrange it so that Pardus is second, and I edit Pardus' menu.lst to add the other distro.  Or, just blow away Mint if I fully embrace Pardus, as I don't need it, but wanted to see if I could do this type of set-up.

So far, I have to say I like Pardus best, and then Mint KDE, as Pardus's layout is excellent, the install is top quality, and I find I have all that I need with the packages that are default installed.  I also like the way Pardus's PiSi package manager only installs the parts of the packages it needs to do an update, which saves me much time and I think is a neat idea when it comes to updates and package installs.  Makes sense.

Lisa Marie

739  General / Wish list / Re: [solved] KOffice Project Kword on: October 09, 2008, 17:39:24 PM
ah, nice!  Thanks, PhiX!

740  Assistance / Hardware / Re: Question on what to do when I upgrade RAM and install new video card on: October 09, 2008, 01:27:17 AM
and, I forgot to add, in BIOS I had to go to CPU Configuration>DRAM Configuration>S/W DRAM over 4 G Remapping and H/W DRAM over 4G Remapping>enabled.  The mother board I have is used, and aparantly the previous owner had the max amount of RAM installed, as these two choiced were already enabled. 

Lisa Marie
741  General / Wish list / Re: [solved] KOffice Project Kword on: October 09, 2008, 01:23:31 AM
atolboo, now that, I did know about.  Grin

If I had to add anything in general about all package managers I have tried, including the terminal based aptitude, is the ability to use "page down" , "page up" or the up or down arrow keys to scan through the packages instead of using the scroll wheel on my mouse or clicking on the side bar arrows or slider bar on the screen using my mouse.  I do remember aptitude had short cut keys for selecting and scrolling , but I don't think they included the arrow keys or page up/page down.

Now you're going to tell me how I can set up these keys to do this, right?   Wink  I'll have to look into it, seriously, as there probably is a way to do this.  It's more comfortable for me to use the key board keys than the mouse.

Lisa Marie
742  General / Wish list / Re: KOffice Project Kword on: October 07, 2008, 22:18:50 PM
 Embarrassed  I did a search in PiSi for both koffice and kword for installed and new...let me look again.


P.S.  Hi Trixon, and thank you!  I was using the search bar incorrectly.  I would click on Show New Packages or Show Installed Packages and entered my search, expecting it to show in the large field on the right.  It found it after I clicked on Components>KDE Desktop. 

I feel so stupid!   Tongue

Thanks, as I learned something by this mistake.

743  Assistance / Hardware / Re: Question on what to do when I upgrade RAM and install new video card on: October 07, 2008, 22:16:56 PM
I am upgrading my RAM from 1 GB to 4 GB (I am running a couple of 64-bit distros).   WIll the increased RAM just be recognized or do I need to do anything about that. 

I spoke too soon without checking System and my recent install of 4GB of RAM.  System>Memory shows 2.6GB of 3.0GB   This could be because neither XP or Pardus is 64-bit based distros.  But, your 64-bit based Linux distros should see the full G's, at least that is what I understand. 

Lisa Marie
744  General / Wish list / [solved] KOffice Project Kword on: October 07, 2008, 22:09:49 PM

I tried this word processor  in Fedora 9, (the ONLY thing I liked about Fedora 9 KDE4, by the way-very buggy!)  I didn't know KDE had their own word processor.  Kword came up quickly and worked well.  I see there is OpenOffice in PiSi, but Kword would be a nice option for the KDE desktop. 


Lisa Marie
745  Assistance / Installing Pardus / Re: Installing Pardus Calisan 2008.1 on: October 04, 2008, 22:11:23 PM
Yes, that's the live cd.  I had a quick search and one fellow said during install to use for initial log in screen:

username: root
password: pardus

Years ago on Simple Mepis it was:
and I remember another one was:

If the above doesn't work, try
pardus   Grin

Lisa Marie

746  Assistance / Hardware / Re: Printer: EPSON EPL 6200 L on: October 04, 2008, 19:02:32 PM
ups, forgot, and if all else fails, there is turbo print.  It is a third-party printer drivers that are made for several printer brands and models.  It is not free, but one can try it out for one month.  I would look over their forum to see if the particular printer in question works with their drivers on Linux.  They don't always work.

Lisa Marie
747  Assistance / Hardware / Re: Printer: EPSON EPL 6200 L on: October 04, 2008, 18:56:44 PM
Hallo G├╝rkan,

I hope it works, too, as it seems to be a problem with certain Linux distros, kernel module, not sure.

I have a Canon Pixma ip3000 printer, and so far it works except for one web page I go to, the Los Angeles Times Crosswords, where I like to print the Sunday crossword.  Using cups, the print is not clear, like some of the dots of ink are missing.  Still, in Pardus it is better than the last kernel,distro I was using (Mint Elyssa) where the page would print the page pushed over to one side of the paper plus the messy fonts mentioned above. 

Hopefully with upgrades, they will fix this for the Epson.

Lisa Marie
748  Assistance / Hardware / Re: Printer: EPSON EPL 6200 L on: October 04, 2008, 17:55:52 PM

Sorry I can not help you with the bug tracking, as I don't have that type of printer.  Not sure if this will help:


Lisa Marie
749  General / General topics / Re: multiple boot windows XP with more than one Linux OS on: October 04, 2008, 17:51:33 PM
Thanks and understood.  Yes, I was using gparted as the drive info, but I see in the grub menu list the SATA drives are hd0, and so forth and not sd.  I have a lot to learn!

Lisa Marie
750  Assistance / Hardware / Re: Question on what to do when I upgrade RAM and install new video card on: October 03, 2008, 23:15:22 PM
ah, poor waf!  Shocked 

Just last year I upgraded our second home computer from 256 MB ram system.  I have to say, this is decadent to run 4 GB's of RAM.  You'd think I was running a CAD system!  I mainly see the speed in video editing, otherwise it is over-indulgance.

Lisa Marie
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