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91  Pardus Anka / Wish list / Re: testing files on: July 05, 2012, 22:36:35 PM
Nice desktop!  My first time to try it out. Thank you.  Installing icon-theme-lxde makes it look complete.
92  General / The Pub / Re: What are you listening to? on: July 04, 2012, 18:21:13 PM
the well pump clicking on every few minutes as I water and water and water as we are experiencing a drought with temperatures in the triple digits for two weeks now.  Thank the Lord for the well water!  I just picked four lovely cucumbers.
Otherwise, the song in my head is "Suddenly Last Summer" from The Motels.   All from flipping the tv channel to "80's at Eight" last night, That and "West End Girls" from the Pet Shop Boys.  I haven't heard these songs since that time period. 
93  General / General topics / Re: Remind me, why do I use Pardus? on: July 02, 2012, 18:16:11 PM
Yes, this is all new to me in what is taking place, so it is kind of bewildering as I don't know how the process is done, and I'm not good at decision making.
I posted the above as it is my way of saying what I would like to see in Pardus.  If you asked me directly, I would have gotten tongue tied. 
And if I had to vote for a name, it would be Toros or Coruh, the former being a mountain, and the latter being a northeastern valley in Turkey that sees lots of migration of birds, lots of diverse plants and animals.  I'd like to see the name be a Turkish word, not a Greek word.  Latin is okay.  Wink
Lisa Marie
94  General / General topics / Remind me, why do I use Pardus? on: July 01, 2012, 17:44:21 PM
Want to know what is great and not so great about Pardus, as sometimes I forget and take Pardus for granted after using it for so many years now.  Go and look up reviews on Pardus 2007, 2008 and 2009 releases and you'll get an idea. 
 
{I can sum up the main reason I tried Pardus in the first place was PiSi and how it only needed to download parts of an update without having to retrieve the entire update package.  Being on dial up, this meant time-saver for me.  I think by now other distros are using this method, or maybe some were at the time PiSi was created, but not the ones I was trying)

http://desktoplinuxreviews.com/2009/07/23/pardus-linux-2009/
Comment #19 'for kids'
(that's one of the other main things that attracted me to Pardus, the artwork.  I must be a kid, at heart!)

What I kept seeing repeated from reviewers: ran out of box, no problem with codec or flash, installer not boring, not another debian or fedora knockoff, surprise of the elegant well-done desktop look,

 
indepth summary of Pardus
https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/elibrary/case/new-kid-block-turkish-pardus-linux-distribution-0

According to link above, the inception in 2003 Pardus project consisted of four people!  and another snippet of interest, 'UEKAE\'s charter statement has national technological independence, security and cost savings as the main goals. Pardus is related to all these goals, thus it is very natural for UEKAE to support Pardus”.  and, what I think is one thing of importance is Turkish localization, 'This national project is Turkey\'s contribution to the variety of GNU/Linux distributions. But more important for the sponsors and project, Pardus gives Turkish GNU/Linux users language independence. Developers in the project managed to customize and integrate the Zemberek Turkish natural language processing software with Pardus so that users have access to Turkish spell checking and grammar facilities in their word processing (OpenOffice), text and chat (Kopete), Calendar (kontact), and emailing (Mailman) software.'
It also mentions funding.  Will we have donations as after all, running a server isn't cheap, all the eye-strain, brain strain is hard work on the developers.)

customisable Kaptan, versatile Tasma control centre
http://bulletspawn.wordpress.com/2008/07/08/pardus-2008-review/
(I would like to see Tasma kept, though don't know if it only works in KDE 3.5.10 as it was available in the Corporate Edition.  KDE settings are numerous, and Tasma simplified it.)

Simple to use, 'granny can work with Pardus without problems'
http://www.desktoplinux.com/articles/AT3075127327.html

'What is the point of this distro? What are the goals?...Are the devs trying to unseat the big dogs like Ubuntu or Fedora...'
http://fosswire.com/post/2008/07/pardus-2008-review/
(Diversity is a good thing)

'I'm absolutely furious that supporting Pardus means adding a new package format.'
http://www.planetoss.com/reviews/pardus-2008-rc1-great-distro-ahead/
(I for one like this about Pardus.  Two main distros, two main packaging formats, to me means all eggs in one basket, as the saying goes.  Not good.  Diversity is good, having more choices is good.  I think of the tree farms in the state os Arkansas.  They are all planted in one type of hybrid Pine.  If the conditions were right, it would only take one disease or one insect to wipe them all out.

For Pardus 2011, the main problem I kept seeing crop up was wireless connection not working, and time it took to port packages from previous Pardus version to newest release.   
95  Assistance / Download/Repos / Re: Repos for 2011 on: June 30, 2012, 01:06:49 AM
Correct, I did remove the anka testing repo.  Oops. 

Thanks atolboo!  I removed the suggested parduslife repo and added the current Pardus repo.  All is well. 

I was wanting to update Firefox which is why I did the above.  I see there is also an nss update from pardususer.  I understand now why you have asked about the i686 anka source.  Hopefully it will come soon and you will then be even busier!!  But, hopefully you are sleeping soundly as it is late where you are and this can wait for tomorrow as I have my repos set up correctly now.
Regards, Lisa Marie
96  Assistance / Download/Repos / Re: Repos for 2011 on: June 29, 2012, 21:26:35 PM
Hello,
I just tried adding pardususer and parduslife back to my repo list after having pardus-linux org as main repo when I made the switch to Anka, but I am getting error:
Code:
pisi lr
pardususer [active]
   http://pakete.pardususer.de/pardus-2011/x86_64/pisi-index.xml.xz
pardus-linuxorg [active]
   http://paketler.pardus-linux.org/P2011/x86_64/pisi-index.xml.xz
parduslife [active]
   http://parduslife-repo.no-ip.org/p2011/x86_64/pisi-index.xml.xz
mee@pardus2012alph ~ $ sudo pisi up
Password:
Sorry, try again.
Password:
Updating repositories
Updating repository: pardususer
pisi-index.xml.xz.sha1sum      (40.0  B)100%    365.71 KB/s [00:00:00] [complete]
pisi-index.xml.xz              (134.0 KB)100%      5.40 KB/s [00:00:00] [complete]
No signature found for http://pakete.pardususer.de/pardus-2011/x86_64/pisi-index.xml.xz
Package database updated.
Updating repository: pardus-linuxorg
pisi-index.xml.xz.sha1sum      (40.0  B)100%    382.80 KB/s [00:00:00] [complete]
pisi-index.xml.xz              (39.0 KB)100%      5.40 KB/s [00:00:00] [complete]
No signature found for http://paketler.pardus-linux.org/P2011/x86_64/pisi-index.xml.xz
Package database updated.
Updating repository: parduslife
parduslife repository needs to be updated
parduslife repository needs to be updated
parduslife repository needs to be updated
parduslife repository needs to be updated
Program terminated.
Could not fetch destination file "http://parduslife-repo.no-ip.org/p2011/x86_64/pisi-index.xml.xz.sha1sum": [Errno 14] PYCURL ERROR 7 - ""
Please use 'pisi help' for general help.
P.S.  You can move this post as it probably should have been placed in Assistance section. 
97  General / General topics / Re: Spirit of Pardus. on: June 29, 2012, 21:16:08 PM
I wanted to reply to this thread as I fully agree with jasperodus' fifth paragraph, which also seems to be along the lines of what Dirse is saying.  After seeing what my husband has gone through as an engineer, a very true statement about governments and how they can change, dropping a good thing which is wasteful.  

Consider me a user, like in the movie, Tron, but I'm still enjoying Pardus, even after installing and using a Mandriva knock off os.  I've never used Mandriva before and I have to say, Pardus still should be proud of their os.  I definitely like the Package Manager.  You don't know how great Pardus is until you try another distro, even though those distros have many more available packages, but that is because they are tied at the waste with the two major ones that most distros are knock offs of.  

I am also quite amazed at the responsibility being taken here and watching the progress.  The one thing I really like about Pardus is that the community may be small but it has big ideas and big compassion.   I can make myself laugh...I think I meant passion or fervor. 
Lisa Marie
98  Assistance / News & Announcements / Re: Domain name Pardusworld.com is available for you on: June 08, 2012, 17:53:56 PM
Yes, some sites at our local library have some sites blocked, some of which are innocent enough, but the person in charge of blocking sites is ignorant to it as they sign up for some general site blocking list - who knows who comes up with these lists?  Unless one contacts them and asks why a certain site is blocked, they will never check on it and decide themselves whether it can be unblocked or no. 

I was wondering if these domains like pardus worldforum have a minimum contract period, like six months, a year, monthly?  And if the contract is about to come up, maybe then a decision can be made whether to the international forum to another domain.  It would be a waste of money to have paid up until a certain time and switch it before then.  I know nothing of these matters.  Embarrassed

We do need a site accessible by all. 
99  Pardus Anka / Feedback / Re: Structure setup on: June 04, 2012, 15:58:46 PM
artwork
One of the things that I have always liked about Pardus is the avatars - cartoon drawings of pisi cat and kaptan.  May be they are not necessary if kaptan welcome - setup wizard is not used in Pardus.  I don't know how they were drawn, and I am not an artist.  Özgürlük İçin site has similar avatar drawings for forum members. 

And, of course, the avatar  that represents Pardus.  I don't know who did the drawings of each of these, if they would still like to continue drawing them, or allow someone else to draw them (with their permission).

And kaptan welcome and setup wizard.  I liked the wizard in 2009 pardus, that also included network setup.  I don't know where the kaptan would fit in the categories of development. 
100  Pardus Anka / Bugs / Re: error inserting microcode on: June 03, 2012, 18:47:52 PM
I followed the temporary fix, comment 118,  at this bug report:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=690930
by creating /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-microcode.conf
with line
blacklist microcode

and now my system boots properly and I no longer have high cpu usage by udevd

I am not certain if I need to have microcode-ctl installed since I use an amd processor, not intel processor.  On the other hand, microcode-ctl, version: 1.17, release: 22 did work with the previous kernel 2.6.37.6 and my amd cpu.
101  Pardus Anka / Bugs / Re: error inserting microcode on: June 01, 2012, 22:20:18 PM
Hi Dirse, and thank you very much.  I have now registered with the ozgurlukicin site.

baDibere, the syslog file is enormous in size - 174mb.   I have added attachments and broken up syslog into relevant parts.  

My set up is root on one ext4 partition and /home on another partition.

I had to boot into my other liinux distro.  When I open up the syslog file, for some reason kwrite hangs and my desktop hangs and I have to do a hard reboot, and then upon reboot, I can't boot into pardus.  Most times I can't boot into pardus at it hangs after waiting more than ten minutes.
and:

Edit to add more info:
dmesg shows only "microcode: CPU0: family 15 not supported"
open 'top' in konsole shows
57% - 60% cpu usage by udevd

my cpu is amd athlon 64 fx-57
Code:
~$ ls /lib/modules/2.6.37.6/kernel/arch/x86/kernel
cpu  microcode.ko
~ $ ls /lib/modules/3.2.5/kernel/arch/x86/kernel
microcode.ko
~ $

with cpu being a directory. which is missing from 3.2.5
102  Pardus Anka / Bugs / Re: frequent stalls of ANKA package downloads/upgrades on: June 01, 2012, 19:08:42 PM
Hi baDibere and Dirse Yalçın and thank you for the replies.

Yes, network settings>connection preferences> under FTP options I have unticked, marked partially uploaded files.  Default is ticked.  Will try changing this to see if it matters.
For Package Manager settings I cache packages since I can easily resume retrieving them if my telephone connection gets disrupted.  Maybe too if I change this to no cache to see if it has any effect.

I did try "pantera" suggestion, and get the following (added as txt file)

so I say 'no' as that seems many packages to remove.

I'll try at different times of the day to see if it helps make a difference.
Regards, Lisa Marie
103  Pardus Anka / Bugs / frequent stalls of ANKA package downloads/upgrades on: June 01, 2012, 17:41:57 PM
Hi,
I wanted to add this problem here as it is still occurring.  I use dial up 56 k modem which is probably why problem is occurring (slow connection).  I do not have this stall problem while surfing the web or downloading packages from Pardus or pardususer repo.  The following stalls occur after about a 60 to 90 seconds.  I have to keep doing 'sudo pisi up' to get entire package.    I have caching of packages enabled in package-manager. 
Code:
b3rj5asusa8ne@pardus2012alph ~ $ sudo pisi up
Password:
Updating repositories
Updating repository: pardus-linux-org
pisi-index.xml.xz.sha1sum      (40.0  B)100%    650.16 KB/s [00:00:00] [complete]
pisi-index.xml.xz              (1.5 MB) 27%      3.47 KB/s [00:05:31]Program terminated.
Could not fetch destination file "h t t p //paketler.pardus-linux.org/pardus/2012/testing/x86_64/pisi-index.xml.xz":
[Errno 14] HTTP Error 200 : h t t p //paketler.pardus-linux.org/pardus/2012/testing/x86_64/pisi-index.xml.xz
Please use 'pisi help' for general help.
b3rj5asusa8ne@pardus2012alph ~ $ sudo pisi up
Updating repositories
Updating repository: pardus-linux-org
pisi-index.xml.xz.sha1sum      (40.0  B)100%    685.52 KB/s [00:00:00] [complete]
pisi-index.xml.xz              (1.5 MB) 33%      1.80 KB/s [00:01:40]Program terminated.
Could not fetch destination file "h t t p //paketler.pardus-linux.org/pardus/2012/testing/x86_64/pisi-index.xml.xz":
[Errno 14] HTTP Error 206 : h t t p //paketler.pardus-linux.org/pardus/2012/testing/x86_64/pisi-index.xml.xz
Please use 'pisi help' for general help.
b3rj5asusa8ne@pardus2012alph ~ $ sudo pisi up
Updating repositories
Updating repository: pardus-linux-org
pisi-index.xml.xz.sha1sum      (40.0  B)100%    650.16 KB/s [00:00:00] [complete]
pisi-index.xml.xz              (1.5 MB) 61%      4.14 KB/s [00:01:06]Program terminated.
Could not fetch destination file "h t t p //paketler.pardus-linux.org/pardus/2012/testing/x86_64/pisi-index.xml.xz":
[Errno 14] HTTP Error 206 : h t t p //paketler.pardus-linux.org/pardus/2012/testing/x86_64/pisi-index.xml.xz
Please use 'pisi help' for general help.
b3rj5asusa8ne@pardus2012alph ~ $
104  Pardus Anka / Bugs / error inserting microcode on: June 01, 2012, 16:23:35 PM
Hi,

After updating to Anka (all 181 packages) on 64 bit Pardus 2011.2, when I boot up, I get a modprobe fatal error message that scrolls for several minutes on black screen, stops and shows "services" then boots into graphical login page, and upon entering password I get following error:
"cannot open consolekit session: unable to open session: activation of org.freedesktop.consolekit timed out"

Yesterday I received the modprobe error, but was able to login successfully, but today I now get the consolekit error each time I try to boot into Anka.

I've included boot log. 

My desktop does not use wireless, but uses a dial up 56 k modem. Nvidia graphics driver is installed.
 
105  Assistance / Bugs / System policy GUI problem in Pardus 2011 on: May 26, 2012, 17:18:52 PM
System policy problem.  I've noticed a problem with this since using Pardus 2011.2 and maybe it occurred in the first release, not sure. The system policy GUI that comes up when, for example, installing packages in package-manager or other GUI's that need authorization, that it never remembers my choice of 'for this session only' and 'remember authorization' (the latter is ticked by default). 
In previous Pardus releases I have always un-ticked 'remember authorization' and after that, the GUI always remembers my setting whenever it comes up again in the future.  I like to type in my password for security purposes and not have it done automatically. 
Now, whether I un-tick 'remember authorization' or tick, 'for this session only' it doesn't act accordingly.  I wondered if anyone else has noticed this?  I am part of 'wheel' group. 
Lisa Marie
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