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1  General / Wish list / Re: Missing killer feature :) on: October 26, 2011, 20:00:25 PM
Unofficial repos are, shall we say, an emergency recourse. It's a resource good enough for its owner, I grant it, but somehow it falls short of being a "killer feature" or, as they say, "insanely useful" (see this review). Trust me: I can't get away from Arch mostly (exclusively?) because of the AUR. In four years I haven't had to design (and debug) a package of my own.
2  General / Wish list / Re: Missing killer feature :) on: October 26, 2011, 18:21:57 PM
I dont know if anyone here has used archlinux, but one of the killer things about it is the aur (arch user repository)
you can read about it here https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Arch_User_Repository

basically anyone can submit a pkgbuild, equivalent of pspec.xml and actions.py

the pkgbuilds are then used at users own risk to build software not in the main repos, they have tools for this, but pisi has it built in.

the pkgbuilds are quality checked for malicious commands etc by trusted users from the community.

I would love to see this here, I know pardususer.de has a repo but its binary, all we are talking here is a place to collect build files, that can be checked over by another pair of eyes.
I would happily spend time checking them and am sure there are plenty of others here who are able and willing to do so. Community is the strength of linux after all Smiley
Necrobumping, unfortunately   Embarrassed . A new topic would be one too many. Still older one: http://worldforum.pardus-linux.nl/index.php?topic=3250.0
"What is AUR" is still priceless  :'(
3  Assistance / Download/Repos / Re: How to generally make sense of Pardus repositories on: February 25, 2010, 16:30:28 PM
What is "AUR" ?
That's the only thing Pardus is lacking  Grin

http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/AUR
http://aur.archlinux.org/

PKGBUILD means functionally the same as pspec.xml+actions.py.

AUR usage can be fairly transparent:

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$ yaourt -S tomboy

means installing tomboy from extra

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$ yaourt -S dropbox

means installing dropbox from AUR

Printouts will not be the same, that's how you can tell the difference...
4  Assistance / Download/Repos / Re: How to generally make sense of Pardus repositories on: February 25, 2010, 15:04:08 PM
You can use the Notes plasmoïd instead of Tomboy, and BasKet instead of Zim. Both are available in Pardus.
I'm now in danger of hijacking my own thread... It looks like Pardus packaging policy is self-defeating. What if I already got used to Zim or Tomboy and don't care for a change Smiley ?

Let's see what we have:

(1) Unparalleled in Linux world technological base.

(2) Combination of stable core apps and up-to-date production applications. The only other distro maintaining the same balance is PCLinuxOS, to my knowledge.

(3) User friendliness, up to a point (4)

(4) Sparse repositories. They feel just as sparse today as they felt a year ago, which suggests rather policy than simple inaction.

I can explain why I'm interested in Pardus. I run two boxes: a laptop, my very own (Arch), and a family box (Arch at present) which I can't abandon to its non-advanced users for obvious reasons. Pardus looks like an ideal fire-and-forget substitute, except that I'll have to build all the missing apps myself. That's a good definition of self-defeat.

Why not borrow some ideas from Arch?

(1) core == pardus(year)

(2) extra+community == contrib

(3) AUR != personal pigmy repositories+user(pigmy too)

Why not consolidate user effort the AUR way? You see, Arch build system (ABS) is a great, easy to use tool, but you don't even need to learn it: regular repos+AUR contain everything, to all intents and purposes. That's because

(1) Regular repos (core extra & community) contain all the apps which proved themselves to be in demand;

(2) AUR contains everything ever needed by a single user

One cannot do any better, IMHO  Grin
5  Assistance / Download/Repos / Re: How to generally make sense of Pardus repositories on: February 25, 2010, 05:41:38 AM
What are tomboy and zim?
Tomboy and Zim are similar in nature note taking apps. The absence of both feels a bit uncomfortable. Or else I have to know where to look really well  Grin .
6  Assistance / Download/Repos / Re: How to generally make sense of Pardus repositories on: February 24, 2010, 19:25:14 PM
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Does it look right? Neither tomboy nor zim in this configuration. Is it so bad?
7  Assistance / Download/Repos / Re: How to generally make sense of Pardus repositories on: February 24, 2010, 06:52:42 AM
Go in the menu under System->Package Manager. In Package Manager, look in the Settings menu and click Configure Package Manager. In this screen you will see a 'Repositories' tab with the contrib repository listed, but not selected perhaps?
When it comes to package management, I prefer CLI tools Smiley
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I've not found any other standard repositories for Pardus
That's much more to the point  Grin . Will you please post the lookup procedure?
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Are you looking for mirrors perhaps?
Next step, mirrors are welcome, too, of course.
8  Assistance / Download/Repos / Re: How to generally make sense of Pardus repositories on: February 24, 2010, 05:54:05 AM
It doesn't feel quite the right thing to do, does it?
Well, it's the right thing to do.
You mean, I can't even have a peep under the hood, just in case? No way?
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I tried the obvious thing: http://packages.pardus.org.tr/
Probably a dumb question, but how am I to deduce the right (available) URLs from there?
I am not even sure I've made myself clear  Sad
9  Assistance / Download/Repos / Re: How to generally make sense of Pardus repositories on: February 23, 2010, 20:46:18 PM
Have a look HERE.
I've started there. But that's kind of gospel, only subject to obsolescense. Of course, I can use bits and pieces found here, as well as trial and error. It doesn't feel quite the right thing to do, does it?

Let me repeat:
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I tried the obvious thing: http://packages.pardus.org.tr/
Probably a dumb question, but how am I to deduce the right URLs from there?
I mean, how am I supposed to check that http://packages.pardus.org.tr/ supplies http://packages.pardus.org.tr/pardus-2009.1/pisi-index.xml.bz2 , for instance? It is not obvious, is it?
10  Assistance / Download/Repos / How to generally make sense of Pardus repositories on: February 23, 2010, 19:39:06 PM
Hi,

I just installed pardus 2009.1 on my VBox. By default it's got just one repo on the list:
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Fine by me, but... How am I supposed to determine the rest of actual (2009(.1)?) repositories (test, contrib, users) without asking questions on the forum?

I tried the obvious thing: http://packages.pardus.org.tr/

Probably a dumb question, but how am I to deduce the right URLs from there?


http://packages.pardus.org.tr/pardus-2009.1/pisi-index.xml.bz2

How am I supposed to make sure (just for my satisfaction) that the bold part exists and determine what other bold parts are available  Grin ?
11  General / Wish list / Re: mp3splt on: November 09, 2009, 15:34:44 PM
I found mp3splt-2.2.6a-2-1.pisi in http://packages.pardus.org.tr/pardus-2009-test/   Wink
Thanks! Is it advisable to keep the repos in this order:
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12  General / Wish list / mp3splt on: November 09, 2009, 13:08:02 PM
Hi,

Is there a .pisi for it? I found this rather outdated curiosity, but not much elsewhere  Grin
13  General / As seen on the internet / Re: KPackageKit on: July 22, 2009, 20:12:50 PM
KpackageKit: future of package managers on your desktop
Now that you mention it  Grin :
http://www.packagekit.org/pk-matrix.html
Can't make much of it, but there certainly are familiar characters there...
14  Assistance / News & Announcements / Re: pardus 2009 alpha released on: June 10, 2009, 17:43:56 PM
Nice screenshots indeed!

A question: how am I supposed to make widgets transparent?
15  Assistance / Configuring Pardus / Re: Keyboard & Mouse dos not function after restart any longer on: May 18, 2009, 15:45:33 PM
If it were you, at least Smiley ... Try to remove the offending application as thoroughly as possible; remove manually what's left after pisi rm. Try to reinstall. Sometimes apps misbehave because of ruined configs...
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