If it not will end. How about this:

"Ladies and gentlemen, as you all know as pardus project is stopped for the
moment, one other important point is developers have lost their jobs... I
believe there is no official employer now or may be 3-5 person.."

If they have lost their jobs, how can the project continue? Can be difficult get good developers back just like that.

Why do some people think that that "electronic toys" are the answer to education?  If you are old enough, it used to be overhead projectors, 35 mm slides, and/or 8 mm films.  How did people learn before electricity?

Gölge,

I apologize. You didn't do or say anything to offend me. When I don't take my medicine I misinterpret things or read things into something that might not even be there and it's hard to tell. I hope you can forgive me.

I appreciate all your work and I have great respect for everyone working to make the best distro even better.

It's good to be back and I promise I will take my meds consistently from now on.
Craig

I was surprised to see the turn taken in this discussion thread, and (like golge and Michiel) am puzzled as to what's going on. Since it appears that Craig has left, we can only guess ... However, my guess is that it may have something to do with the name of the new Xfce release.

After doing some searching via Google (and with the help of Google Translate), I found the following:


Source: http://tinyurl.com/494unv7

(Google Translate version of this original Turkish page:

http://comakp.blogspot.com/2011/03/pardus-2011-xfce-nusrat.html )

----- Some background information (in English) -----

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nusret_(ship)
(Brief) Wikipedia article on the ship Nusrat

http://en.wikipedia.or/wiki/Aviation_Martyrs%27_Monument#Commemoration_day
(Brief) Wikipedia article on Martyrs' Memorial Day

So perhaps he was offended by the "militaristic" release name and nationalistic-patriotic overtones. I acknowledge that it is a departure from the (endangered) animal-theme release names we have seen from the Pardus project in the past. Since I'm not Turkish, it is difficult for me to put this into context and know whether the intention is militaristic or not ...  (Maybe I'm totally naive, but it appears that the idea of Martyrs' Memorial Day is very similar to the Memorial Day we observe here in the U.S. And IMHO, that holiday is not about glorifying war, but a somber reminder of the human cost of warfare, and a way to remember the soliders who gave their lives in the service of their country).

At any rate, I regret that this happened but I do not believe that you wrote anything inappropriate, golge. So I think your conscience can be clear.

It's probably best to let this topic drop and move on to other things.

I have noticed that Gnome and XFCE are both in the repos of 2011. I'm just wondering what the proper way of installing the Gnome and XFCE desktop's are in pardus. I'm used to packages for installing DE's not each file separately. My wife has an older laptop that runs KDE 4.5 a bit slow (AMD 2800+, 512 RAM) and Gnome and XFCE seem to work better on it from other distros.

gölge -- I hope you will keep posting updates and news here in the English section.  Some of us are wondering about when KDE 4.6 might be ready.