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1  General / The Pub / Re: Wayland 1.0 on: October 23, 2012, 22:20:38 PM
Fpr a description of what this actually means (unless you're a developer not much).

2  General / Tips and tricks / Re: Replacement for Pardus: Manjaro on: October 16, 2012, 05:57:26 AM
After lots of reflection I have decided to come back to the single other distro (next to Pardus) where I have come back to before: Open SUSE 12.2 (KDE).

Will keep visiting this worldforum of course to see what happens (or not).

Maybe you should start a thread for OpenSUSE, to describe its advantages & disadvantages.

Like you I continue to follow this forum, but I'm not really hopeful.
3  General / Tips and tricks / Re: Replacement for Pardus: Manjaro on: October 07, 2012, 22:33:21 PM
Indeed, Arch & its derivatives do use their own package management. The format is an XZ compressed tarball, but (unlike Slackware) there is dependency handling. Similarly to Pisi, the install is done in one step, c.f. .deb where all packages are unpacked then all are installed.

The usual drawback to not using one of the big two packaging systems is fewer packages available. For Arch & derivatives this is considerably eased by the Arch User Repository (AUR ) system, which allows package build scripts to be uploaded to a repository. The bundled tools for building from the AUR are officially supported by Manjaro (unlike Arch itself). That said, I've only had to go to AUR for a few packages (e.g. plplot, ms fonts gnu-data-language).

In the spectrum of derivative distributions, Manjaro has a similar pattern to Ubuntu i.e. they have their own repository servers and build system, the core packages are configured to fit the distro's needs while many others are just rebuilt using the un-modified Arch build scripts (similar to Ubuntu's Universe). At the moment the core team are putting a lot of effort into improving the core infrastructure such as the Manjor Hardware Detection scripts (mhwd), so updates aren't that rapid. The long-term plan is to have a rolling release but to lag a little behind Arch to allow more testing and so prevent the broken systems that can occasionally happen with Arch.

Probably the most dramatic difference I find from both Kubuntu and Pardus is that the boot and shutdown times are much shorter.
4  General / Tips and tricks / Replacement for Pardus: Manjaro on: October 02, 2012, 23:32:38 PM
This is a new distro, still at the beta stage. The aim of the developers is to make a derivative of Arch that ordinary users can install and use. While the primary desktop is Xfce, there are KDE and Gnome versions as well.

After trying it on a VM as part of the testing of gtk-fortran I felt it was something different from most others. It has now replaced Kubuntu on my main laptop and Pardus on my media box. While there are still a few rough edges, it looks to be heading in the right direction and is well worth a try.

Link to the home page: http://blog.manjaro.org/
5  General / Tips and tricks / Re: Replacement for Pardus: Mageia on: September 16, 2012, 00:03:11 AM
Everything but not mageia, please. Pclinuxos is better than mageia!

I don't think it's always possible to quantify what makes a distribution special.

IMHO Mageia is a serviceable distro but it doesn't have that something extra that I can't quite put my finger on.

Before we start any flame wars let's remember that although it is reasonable to assume that everyone here found/finds Pardus to be a solution to their needs,  we may well have liked different aspects of it and hence will find that our most comfortable alternative places are different. By all means chip in with your favourites but remember it's only personal preferences not an absolute "this is where we should all go".
6  General / Tips and tricks / Re: Replacement for Pardus: Mageia on: September 15, 2012, 01:11:02 AM
Another very promising looking distro is Manjaro (http://blog.manjaro.org/).

It's a user-friendly derivative of Arch (and having been experimenting with it for a while I can definitely say that that's not an oxymoron). There are still a few rough edges as might be expected for a first beta release that's only been out in the wild for about 3 weeks.

I am aware of at least one other Pardus refugee active on the Forums (and a few others I'm sure I remember from here though no longer active). There are also several active forum members from Turkey, but the names are not familiar.

The default desktop is XFCE, but a KDE version is available and works well.
7  General / General topics / Re: Pardus_2011.3rc1_KDE_Gnome on: August 24, 2012, 18:59:50 PM
Other than having the Pardus Grub boot screen I don't see much in my (very limited) experimentations to distinguish it from (say) Siduction.

As regards language, it seems mainly OK in en_GB, except that the "about" messages that display while the installer is running (as opposed to the progress messages) are in Turkish.
8  General / General topics / Re: Pardus_2011.3rc1_KDE_Gnome on: August 23, 2012, 17:13:26 PM
It looks like it's based off Debian (not quite sure if it's Squeeze or Wheezy), rather than an evolution of Pardus_2011.2.

Anyway, I'm downloading to give it a spin in a VM.
9  Assistance / Download/Repos / Re: Repos for 2011 on: August 10, 2012, 19:32:40 PM
Not good  Cry

Perhaps it's just a problem at the hosting site or with connections to Turkey, but I doubt it.
10  Assistance / Download/Repos / Re: Repos for 2011 on: August 10, 2012, 19:17:31 PM

I just get a 'server not found" error if I try to open the link with firefox, and also with http://www.pardus.org.tr. (Or any other bookmarks I have to pardus.org.tr sites)
11  Assistance / News & Announcements / Re: Pardus ... back to the future? on: May 29, 2012, 16:20:53 PM
There where some network problems yesterday .. so try it again Smiley

Thanks, I'll try again when I get home this evening.
12  Assistance / News & Announcements / Re: Pardus ... back to the future? on: May 29, 2012, 00:16:05 AM
Has anybody else seen this error on trying to add the ANKA repository?
james@amarice-2 ~ $ sudo pisi -v ar anka http:://paketler.pardus-linux.org/pardus/2012/testing/x86_64/pisi-index.xml.xz
Repo anka added to system.
Updating repository: anka
Fetching http:://paketler.pardus-linux.org/pardus/2012/testing/x86_64/pisi-index.xml.xz.sha1sum
pisi-index.xml.xz.sha1sum      (22.7 KB)  0%      9.65 MB/s [--:--:--]Fetching http:://paketler.pardus-linux.org/pardus/2012/testing/x86_64/pisi-index.xml.xz
pisi-index.xml.xz              (22.6 KB)  0%     11.43 MB/s [--:--:--]Program terminated.
File integrity of http:://paketler.pardus-linux.org/pardus/2012/testing/x86_64/pisi-index.xml.xz compromised.
Please use 'pisi help' for general help.
Today it has been repeatable for me , and I'm not sure if the package list is corrupted, or if there's a network issue?
13  Assistance / Configuring Pardus / Re: virtualbox tools. on: May 26, 2012, 06:19:56 AM
Many thanks -- that's more or less what I thought; I just wasn't sure if the virtualbox stuff was needed by the guest system to access the virtual HDD or something like that.
14  Assistance / Configuring Pardus / virtualbox tools. on: May 25, 2012, 23:37:54 PM
I'm probably being totally dumb here, but I've not used virtualbox before.

To test out the new testing repositories for Pardus, I installed Pardus 2011.2 under virtualbox on my testbed box (currently running Siduction [a Debian Sid derivative]) and then added the testing repository.

However when I tried to update, it failed on the virtualbox kernel modules (said they need 2.6.3x). And now the virtual machine won't boot properly.

So the question is: Are the virtualbox modules needed on the guest system or can they be uninstalled before updating -- I don't plan on running a virtual box within a virtual box!

There may of course be other problems as even when booting with the old kernel, kwin crashed, but I'd like to eliminate the virtualbox packages as a source of the problems.

15  Assistance / News & Announcements / Re: Pardus ... back to the future? on: May 14, 2012, 21:35:09 PM
I guess it's Mageia Wink

Actually ROSA (sometimes POCA)
is a Russian Mandriva derivative.

Lisa: Not great timing -- the release came out yesterday
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