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31  General / General topics / Re: Pardus End of Life on: January 27, 2012, 19:16:57 PM
http://www.pardus.org.tr/en/yasal/

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All products developed by TÜBİTAK/BİLGEM released under terms of 2nd generation General Public License (GPL v2). Pardus compiles a number of free softwares as well. You may find all the licenses at source

Thank you. As you can see, Pardus can be easily forked. The only problem is developers. So, we need somebody from Turkey.
By the way, I am a developer, but for windows  Lips Sealed
32  General / General topics / Re: Pardus End of Life on: January 27, 2012, 19:06:52 PM
Thank you, so it is free. KDE (and other DEs) are free.
So, next step Smiley
And we need somebody from Turkey. It is very important.
33  General / General topics / Re: Pardus End of Life on: January 27, 2012, 18:49:30 PM
And I think, we should unite this site with

http://www.pardus-linux.org/
http://www.pardususer.de/
http://www.pardusworld.com/
http://www.pardus-linux.ru

And other resources.
We need somebody from Turkey to translate this topic:
http://www.pardus-linux.org/haberler/2012/01/pardus-2011-s%C3%BCr%C3%BCm-sonu
(google translate is @@@)
34  General / General topics / Re: Pardus End of Life on: January 27, 2012, 18:41:03 PM

Yes, the main questions are "Is Pardus-specific software  free (GPL)" and "how to contact to one of the former developers of Pardus".
We can wait ... and wait... but these questions are closer and closer.
I think, you have understood what I am talking about.
35  General / General topics / Re: Pardus End of Life on: January 27, 2012, 10:54:54 AM
The message on the mailing-list is from Semen Cirit, working at TIBITAK. So that is an
official announcement. But still no news about 2012 or ....?
And its is now already 3 months + 1 month (january 2012) = 4 months reorganization and
no development or news (only that there will be some workshop, when??).

But it is not very tactical to send a message about end of life 2011 right now (and after one year?)
and not any real news about the future yet.

It is like situation in Nokia:
They had their own OS (Symbian), new linux-based project (MeeGo), Qt...
and (surprise)
new CEO is from M$. And now Nokia is falling down. Very quickly.

About Pardus: it looks like smb (may be in goverment?) decided, that
the best and the only OS for Turkey is W7. Or W8.
36  General / General topics / Re: Pardus End of Life on: January 27, 2012, 09:45:19 AM
So if 2011 reach end of life, can the community build there own update packages?
There is still no sign for any new version ... so what are we gonna do as community?



About 10-20-30% of (may be I'm wrong) packages for Pardus are created by community.
But packages like kernel, KDE and other are in official repository.
So, it is very strange to stop updating 2011 without any news about 2012.
We are reading mail-lists, but not official announcements  Sad

By the way:
linux kernel is 3.2.2 (stable version)
and
http://kde.org/announcements/4.8/

(it is about updating software)
37  General / General topics / Re: Pardus End of Life on: January 23, 2012, 11:56:32 AM
I think a Pardus Fork would be a good Idea. I will use Pardus for now, If it ends I will get either Chakra or Debian.
Might I remind you that there are few discontinued distros that died and got continuations/forks like
MOPSlinux = Agilia
QIlinux = openmamba
opensolaris = openindiana

Btw I have been following this thread for a while, I was waiting for my account to be accepted by the mods.
From Malta (Probably the only user in this country)

Welcome Smiley
I think, we should wait for our friends from Turkey and
follow http://www.pardusworld.com/ Smiley
They are not going to fork.
Fork is a last, critical stage. I hope, people with $$
will understand, that national (and international)
desktop distro is the best way than using M$ Smiley
38  General / General topics / Re: Pardus End of Life on: January 23, 2012, 06:30:46 AM
Just installed updates. Shocked

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And I know one of them with unique package-system

Can you tell us distro name?

It is an amateur distro, its roots are in Slackware (several years ago),
its name is here:
http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=agilia

P.S. I don't like them, but they have their own package-manager.
And they have only 12 developers, including testers, mainteiners and
designers Smiley

Or look at PCLinuxOS: over 12000 independent packages.
They use apt-rpm system Smiley
39  General / General topics / Re: Pardus End of Life on: January 22, 2012, 07:59:19 AM
That is not good news from you John A, why leaving already?

And using Windows 7 ... sorry, but that is never a good choice.

Pardus and Linux is more then just OS, if you think about how it all
works then it is more then just develop an OS.

What is mean with that is a way of living and working that is different
then the old economy we have know.

People like to help each other and that is also the way Linux is created.



About distros: I know active distros with 3-4-5 developers.
And I know one of them with unique package-system (like Pardus) and
it has MORE packages.
So, the only problem is a developers of unique soft, like PiSi.
40  Assistance / News & Announcements / Re: Good news!! on: January 19, 2012, 19:32:12 PM

If the new Corporate will use KDE 4 (or maybe Gnome) or maybe two versions (desktop and server), then its ok with me

 

Pardus 2011 is one of the best KDE4-based systems. It will be just silly to forget about it Smiley
Look at reviews Wink They are all about Pardus 2011, not Corporate.

Look at Fedora/RH OpenSUSE/SLED  Roll Eyes

I hope, smb from Turkey will read this post Smiley
41  General / General topics / Re: Pardus End of Life on: January 19, 2012, 19:23:16 PM
Atleast a official message. But as Linux as general it remains about the same:
http://gs.statcounter.com/#os-ww-monthly-201012-201112
(and the fiasco Windows Vista is still larger than Mac Os)

I not think it be much difference in 2012.

Much attention will be focused at Windows 8 speculations and articles this year:
http://www.thetechlabs.com/tech-news/windows-8-features/

So any Linux news will "drown" in all Windows 8 related articles and media attention.

May be, but not in Russia. I am a developer in a very large company.
We are moving from windows-only to cross-platform development.
And this is for partners from other countries.
42  Assistance / News & Announcements / Re: Support the Pardus developers on: January 19, 2012, 19:14:01 PM

ah, that would be somethin': governmental projects not only funded with tax dough but also by gifts...  Huh?
or do we perhaps like to pay them taxes, now do we? hm, interesting.

sorry, no time, have to go and tell the 'dukes that rule' these boglands 'bout this  Grin

Promotion is at the 1st place, for example in Russia nobody will promote Pardus, except us,
russian team of promotors, translators and creators of packages.
We have created a wiki-page  (wikipedia), translated all and created a special
site for promotion Pardus in Russia. May be, we will create our own repository.
About packages: after turning on testing repository, pardususer.de and unofficial repository from
Turkey, there are only about 4500 packages. I am not a creator of packages, not a maintainer,
but I am not alone.
You can look at it like a "tax"  Wink
43  Assistance / News & Announcements / Re: Support the Pardus developers on: January 18, 2012, 17:11:13 PM
"And we are still waiting for images  Tongue"
Being a english speaker ( only  Embarrassed  ) , I can see different meanings for the word "images "...can you use a different word to explain ?
Pictures Smiley
about 900x500 size with free license to our site.
We need Pardus-connected and Pardusfans-connected pictures as background for our site Smiley
44  Assistance / News & Announcements / Re: Support the Pardus developers on: January 18, 2012, 15:51:28 PM
How?!

We can promote and translate and create packages.
And we are still waiting for images  Tongue
And, later, we can create a link for donations, of course.
45  General / General topics / Re: Pardus End of Life on: January 18, 2012, 15:44:12 PM
Thank you for this news.
Here, in Russia, we have started the new site.
But look at distrowatch. Where is marketing?
Where is promotion?
And where are images for our new site?  Wink
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