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1  Assistance / News & Announcements / Re: [POLL] Frozen the World Forum on: March 11, 2013, 00:30:10 AM
Although I will be sad when this user forum is frozen, I think it had to happen sooner or later. Almost all the activity has been taking place under the "Pardus Anka" section, and now that Anka has officially changed its name to PiSi Linux ...

I'll wait patiently for the final, street-ready release of PiSi Linux and try it on a spare partition. If it runs well on my hardware, I will probably install it permanently. It sounds like the development team is fairly small at this point, but I trust that they are working as carefully as they can.

Along with richdb, I encourage everyone who still has an interest in Pardus / Anka / PiSi Linux to register for the new forum:

2  Assistance / Pardus for beginners / Re: Can anyone please help create a Gagauz keyboard layout? on: August 29, 2012, 21:16:36 PM
Hi, Anglo,

You might want to check out these fonts:

(Award-winning font designed by Victor Gaultney)

(Similar to Bitstream Charter)

(Similar to Times/Times New Roman)

(Reminds me of Comic Sans)

I think all -- or most -- of these are available in the Pardus (2011) repos. I'm not sure about openSUSE, though ... I confess that I'm hardly using Pardus these days; I still have it installed, but am waiting to see what happens with Anka.
3  Assistance / Pardus for beginners / Re: Can anyone please help create a Gagauz keyboard layout? on: August 29, 2012, 18:05:59 PM
Hi, greywalk,

This is just an idea/suggestion (and you may have thought of it already) ... Have you tried contacting SIL for possible assistance? Since they are involved with linguistic computing (such as fonts, keyboard layouts, etc.) and since it seems like some scholars consider Gagauz to be endangered, this might be right up SIL's alley:


I'd never heard of Gagauz before, so I found it interesting to do a little research. It's curious that both Wikipedia and Omniglot mention its Latin alphabet, while Ethnologue lists only the Cyrillic alphabet:


I'm sorry I can't be of any help with creating a working keyboard layout. I've done some reading but this is clearly over my head. It does strike me that it might be most logical to use a Turkish keyboard layout as a base, since the alphabet seems identical to Turkish, with the exception of the Romanian " ,t" [ts].

HTH and Good luck,
4  Assistance / News & Announcements / Yoyo's "Pardus Life" blog may be closing down on: July 14, 2012, 22:17:47 PM
Many of us know Yoyo Fernandez, a very active and dedicated Pardus user from Spain. In particular, he has done a lot to promote Pardus in the Spanish-speaking community, with his "Pardus Life" blog and a Spanish-language user forum (Foro Pardus-es).

On 12 July 2012, he announced that he is leaving Pardus (although he left his best wishes for the success of the Anka Project) and will likely need to shut down the Pardus Life blog unless someone volunteers to take it over. His announcement was published here:


For those who don't read Spanish, I've extracted a few snippets from his article and will include a translation:

Yo ya he llegado a mi límite y no tengo fuerzas para continuar sólo con esto,
soy consciente de que si yo abandono esto puede morir, de ahí que deje la puerta
abierta por si aún queda alguien con ilusión de continuar el proyecto Pardus

I've reached my limit and don't have the energy to single-handedly continue
with this. I'm aware that if I abandon this [blog], it might die, so I'm leaving
the door open in case anyone else would like to continue the Pardus Life project.

A raíz de todo este asunto de la caída de Pardus y después de un tiempo aún
publicando aquí sobre Pardus y KDE, he vuelto a Gnome, a la que siempre fue mi
casa. He vuelto a mis distribuciones .deb con Debian y SolusOS y para ser
sincero no voy a continuar con KDE.

Due to Pardus's downfall (decline) and after some time during which I was still
publishing here on Pardus and KDE, I've gone back to using Gnome, which I always
considered as my "home" desktop environment. I've returned to my .deb-based distros,
Debian and SolusOS, and to be honest I don't plan to continue with KDE.

Os comunico también que el dominio http://parduslife.com/ está próximo a caducar
y no lo renovaré, así que este blog retomará nuevamente el subdominio con
wordpress: http://parduslife.wordpress.com/

I would also like to notify you that the domain http://parduslife.com/ is about to
expire and I will not be renewing it, so this blog will go back to using a subdomain
with Wordpress: http://parduslife.wordpress.com/

Y bueno, no quiero hacerme más extenso, si aún queda alguien que tenga pensado
seguir con Pardus y desea colaborar con el blog o foro, que lo deje dicho en los
comentarios y lo hablamos para ver si hay posibilidad de agregarlo como autor al
blog y así pueda publicar :-)

Well, I don't wish to write at length, [so] if there is someone who still plans to
use Pardus and would like to collaborate on this blog or the [Spanish-language] forum
[Foro Pardus-es], please leave a comment and we will discuss the possibility of adding
him/her as a blog author, so that the blog might continue being published.  Smiley

I'd like to publicly thank Yoyo for everything he has contributed to Pardus, and for so freely sharing his Pardus knowledge and expertise. Yoyo, we will miss you.

I wish you the best of luck in your Linux travels.

5  Assistance / News & Announcements / Re: Pardus ... back to the future? on: May 17, 2012, 18:45:13 PM

Thank you very much for keeping us updated.  Smiley

Anka means Simurg.

"Anka" is an interesting choice of name. I didn't know that Simurgh is a benevolent flying creature in Persian mythology:

6  Assistance / News & Announcements / Re: Pardus Fork on: February 27, 2012, 20:24:19 PM
Laut einer Übersetzung auf G+ soll der Workshop am 23 und 24 März stattfinden.
My translation: The workshop shall be on May 23-24 according a translation on G+.

The workshop date should be March 23-24, right? (I think you made a small typo).

As always, a big thanks to you and everyone from Pardususer.de who is helping create these updated packages! We appreciate your hard work and dedication.
7  General / General topics / Re: Pardus End of Life on: January 28, 2012, 19:06:58 PM
I have been following this discussion with great interest, to see what would happen with Pardus and TUBITAK. Unfortunately, as richdb points out, the situation appears to have gone from bad to worse.

I have carefully read all the information and links which have been posted here in our English-language forum -- and tried to remain hopeful. IMHO, the most damaging / discouraging news is the lengthy message written by Bahadir Kandemir ( http://tinyurl.com/74hural ), a Pardus developer who resigned and actually provides firsthand evidence of the situation inside TUBITAK. Another "insider's" report, clearly written from the heart, was posted by Ozan Caglayan on his blog: http://developer.pardus.org.tr/people/ozan/blog/?p=144. (It was translated into English by Yasin Aydin).

I have been using Pardus since 2009 and it is one of my two "go-to" distros. Solid, reliable, with many nice touches, for me it lived up to someone's claim that Pardus was one of the best (if not the best) implementation of KDE 4 in the Linux ecosystem. So although it is difficult for me to admit it, it seems almost certain that Pardus is dying.  :'(

It seems inevitable that Pardus will have to be forked if the community wishes for the developers' hard work to live on ... I, for one, am certainly willing to use a new fork (if it materializes) and I applaud the efforts of everyone who is volunteering to be a part of it: atolboo, richdb, acjohnson, tribunal, sw (with apologies to others I may have forgotten to mention). I am a simple end-user without programming skills or any in-depth Linux knowledge, but I would certainly be willing to test a new version on a spare partition of my hard drive and report bugs, problems, etc.  

From a logistics viewpoint, one big problem will be the language barrier (which we have experienced before). From the IRC session which acjohnson provided, you can see that some participants were frustrated with being unable to communicate in a common language. I hope there is some way that the efforts of the Turkish-speaking community can be better coordinated with the English-speaking and German-speaking users. (I am not trying to be negative -- just realistic).  

I have not completely abandoned ship yet (I am writing this from my Pardus 2011.2 installation). I will stick around and see what happens.

Thanks again to everyone who uses and supports Pardus -- or a new fork of it, despite TUBITAK's current organizational problems.

8  General / Tips and tricks / Re: fastest setup? on: January 15, 2012, 05:06:09 AM
I'm looking at a g4 powerbook, TELL me about ancient.


In case you haven't heard about Jeroen Diederen's Linux MintPPC, I thought I'd mention it:


We have an old G4 PowerBook (with OS X 10.4 Tiger on it, which is now unsupported). I've read positive reviews of MintPPC and am seriously considering installing it on the laptop.
9  General / General topics / Re: Pardus End of Life on: January 01, 2012, 20:35:16 PM
Here is the full translation;
We have been speaking about the future of Pardus project for over 2 months, on blogs, forums, and on social media websites. [. . .]

Hi, Bekir and armut,

Many thanks to both of you for providing us with timely, accurate translations.  Smiley I have been trying to follow the news about Pardus' future, but the language barrier has frustrated me.

Pardus is one of my favorite distros and I would be very sorry if the project ended. It sounds like the situation is not as dire as I had first imagined, and that we can hope for a bright future ...

Happy New Year 2012 to you and all the forum members here!


10  Assistance / Pardus Project / Re: A Pardus fork? on: December 27, 2011, 03:31:40 AM
Hi, John A,

Thanks for finding this (disturbing  Huh?) news. I had not heard anything about this; I was only aware that it has been a while since I have received any updates for Pardus 2011 -- which is not unusual, based on my previous experience with Pardus 2009 ...

It seems that the Pardus Team has recently lost three developers (according to Erkan Tekman's blog). I'm sure that this was a blow to them. However, I would like to think positively and echo Ozan Caglayan's statement:

There is a major restructuring at Pardus. This is why there is a little slowdown on e-mail lists, package repositories and all the rest parts of the project. All of these are temporary. When the restructuring process is completed, this temporary state will be compensated.

It took me some time to follow the various threads of this discussion, and to paste them into Google Translate to see if I could make sense of its translation. For those of us who cannot read Turkish, we know firsthand that Turkish morphology and syntax does not lend itself to graceful machine translations ...

For those interested in reading Google Translate's English rendering of these threads, I will provide links below. It is not my intent to stir up any controversy by doing this; I simply hope that it will save someone's time. I appreciate Pardus, admire what the project has accomplished and wish it continued success.

From Pravda Pardus
(Erkan Tekman's blog)

"Personnel Actions." 2 Nov. 2011.



"Is the end nearing?" 20 Dec. 2011.


[Pardus-users mailing list]

"What is going on in the Pardus team?" 21 Dec. 2011.

11  General / Introduce yourself / Re: I am back after nearly two years to Pardus on: December 25, 2011, 22:12:07 PM
Hallo, Andreas,

It's very nice to see you back in the forum. Welcome again!  Smiley

I am still happily using Pardus 2011 on my desktop PC (along with three other Linux distros), and have installed it on an HP Mini 210 netbook. I've been very busy with work-related obligations and have not had much time to post here. When things settle down, I hope to become a more active forum participant.

Merry Christmas (and Happy New Year)!

12  General / General topics / Re: Show off your Desktop on: November 13, 2011, 22:18:16 PM
glad u like it. do u know http://simpledesktops.com/ site? amazing wallpapers can be found there =]

Hi, pagenoare,

Many thanks for that link! The website has some very creative artwork, and I enjoyed browsing through it. I found several wallpapers to download.
13  General / Introduce yourself / Re: 4EverNubi on: October 21, 2011, 04:46:40 AM
Hi, Anglophony / 4EverNubi,

Welcome aboard! I hope you'll enjoy using Pardus and find this forum to be a friendly, helpful place. (I also hope it will help correct the misconception that Pardus' target audience is only Turkish-speaking users). Like you, I am something of a distro-hopper but Pardus is one of my mainstays; I have it installed on both my desktop PC and an HP Mini 210 netbook. It has been very stable for me, and I'm grateful for all the work the developers have done. It's a real accomplishment to have built a distro of such quality from scratch, IMHO.

Besides the user forum, another good source of information is the Pardus Wiki:


Is your avatar Bill the Cat? (Please don't forget Opus -- or Steve Dallas).

With best wishes,
14  General / As seen on the internet / Re: Unixstickers. on: September 20, 2011, 04:18:41 AM
Just thought I'd mention that ThinkGeek (a mail-order company based in Fairfax, Virginia, USA) has some "generic" case badges available:


(I like the Tux and the Linux Inside designs). I promise I don't get a kickback from them; I'm just a satisfied customer. I bought a small stuffed Tux doll for my son when he was younger:


15  Assistance / Pardus for beginners / Re: Wallpaper Geeks? on: September 20, 2011, 04:06:06 AM
Hi, PardusJohn,

I interpreted your post somewhat differently -- as a request for some website / forum where you could join and possibly contribute wallpaper you've created yourself. If that is the case, I can suggest the two I know about:



I don't know anything about these communities, e.g., whether one is considered to be more "artsy", highbrow or friendlier than the other ...

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