Hi, Tony,

Welcome to the forum! I hope you'll enjoy using Pardus and make yourself at home here. (I've been busy installing the 2011 release and tinkering with it, so I haven't been reading this subsection of the forum).

My one suggestion is to take a look at the English-language Wiki (which we can all thank atolboo for!). It is an invaluable resource with lots of tips and tricks:

http://en.pardus-wiki.org/Main_Page

Have fun,
=david

Hi, Craig,

Welcome to the Pardus Worldforum. Although this is not as large or active a forum as some, there is no shortage of friendly, helpful people -- with an international flavor. I hope you'll feel at home here.

I agree with your assessment that Pardus is a real "sleeper" which deserves more widespread recognition. I read occasional comments dismissing it as a "niche distro" but I don't agree with them. The developers built the distro completely from scratch, and have created some very useful tools, such as the YALI installer, the Control Center, the Boot Manager (which makes multibooting Linux much easier -- it can also handle booting GRUB2-based distros) and the first-run Kaptan Desktop Assistant.

One standard criticism I see regarding Pardus is the smaller size of its repository. This is valid, but the developers are working hard to add more PiSi packages of apps. I installed 2011 two days ago, and at this point, the two applications I'm missing (but can live without, if necessary, since I have them available in other distros) are Abiword and Gnucash. Almost all the other software I regularly use is already there, including TeX Live, Kile and Emacs-AUCTeX.

I've been using Pardus since the 2009 release and it continues to impress me; it is stable and runs smoothly on my hardware. I haven't tried every KDE 4 implementation out there, but IMHO Pardus's is one of the best. It compares very favorably to PCLinuxOS, another of my longtime favorites.

If you haven't found it yet, take a look at the English-language Wiki (largely put together by atolboo). It has lots of tips, tricks and useful info:

http://en.pardus-wiki.org/Main_Page

You can find a contents list of the 2011 repo here:

http://packages.pardus.org.tr/

I hope you too will enjoy using Pardus.

=david

Hi, Bekir,

Thanks for the Turkish mini-lesson! Now I can add two more words to my massive, ten-word Turkish vocabulary. 

@csaenemy,

You're welcome! I'm glad that boot parameter also worked for you and allowed you to successfully install 2011. I was surprised the tip worked because everything else I tried had failed; I was frustrated and about ready to give up for the evening. Then I found that older forum thread and it sounded very promising ...

Tonight my project is to back up my 2009.2 data before I try installing 2011. The positive comments I've read and the screenshots I've seen have convinced me to install the new release.

@Bekir,

Thank you for clarifying this for me, bulaka and everyone else. You're performing an invaluable service by notifying us of important information from the Turkish-language forum. Your efforts are appreciated.  

It's nice that users have the option of upgrading this way, if they wish. (In my case, based on my experience with other distros, I will probably do a fresh install. It just seems cleaner that way. I had some video-card-related problems getting the Install DVD [Kurulan] to run properly, but I finally found a solution last night).

< Edit: [Language question] >

Could Bekir or bulaka please explain the meaning of the the terms Kurulan and ,Cali,san?

My Turkish is almost nonexistent, but I sometimes try looking up words in a dictionary ... I'm not sure I have identified the roots / infinitives properly, but this is my best guess:

kurulan > from kurulamak : 'to wipe dry', 'to dry' (Maybe as in 'wipe, erase [a hard drive]' (?))

,cali,san > from ,cali,smak : 'to work', 'to study', 'to try' (Maybe as in 'trial' [?])

(I know the "i" is supposed to be a dotless Turkish i, but I can't easily insert it here).

I have wondered about this for a while.

Hi, SpecialEd,

I sincerely appreciate your suggestions for possible boot parameters. I've tried both of them tonight; unfortunately, neither of them worked for me. However, after a fair amount of experimenting -- and a large number of failures -- I discovered a solution that was successful on my hardware ...

After selecting English as the system language, I typed this parameter into the "Boot Options" line:


Amazingly, that allowed YALI to proceed to the initial step of the installation, whose screen looks like this:

http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/8938/getreadyinstallpardus.jpg
Get Ready to Install Pardus

(It takes several minutes to reach this point, so please wait patiently).

After agreeing to / accepting the GPL, I continued to the step of validating the installation packages (which was successful), then I backed out of YALI.

In my searching, I found an old forum thread which has some other useful tips and workarounds for a similar situation:

http://worldforum.pardus-linux.nl/index.php?topic=1011.0
"Installation Problem." 19 May 2007.

I hope this info will be helpful to csaenemy and anyone else who's having problems getting their installation started. I will probably try installing Pardus 2011 after I completely back up my 2009.2 data.

=david

@atolboo,

Thank you for the clarification. I asked because I didn't understand what Mr. Eraslan meant. (I incorrectly assumed that the Pardus developers were close to completing this project / enhancement, and that it might be possible do a seamless upgrade from 2009.2 to 2011 via PiSi). It sounds like that is not the case, however.

Hi, SpecialEd,

Many thanks for your tip! I didn't try either of those options in my experimentation but I will certainly try them tonight and report whether they work on my system.

Thanks again,
=david

Hi, csaenemy,

Thanks for posting this. I can confirm that I'm experiencing exactly the same problem. I also have an nVidia card (although it is an integrated, onboard card) which works fine in 2009.2.

As you did, I checked both the md5sum and the sha1sum before burning the .iso to disc with K3B. They matched the correct checksums. I used a good quality TDK DVD-R, and burned the disc at 4x speed (the slowest speed available on my hardware). K3B very rarely fails me, so I'm assuming that I have a valid disc to install from.

Just a few more details on the boot sequence -- since at first I thought this might be caused by an incorrect detection of my screen resolution. (However, now I do not believe this is the cause). The initial splash / boot screen appears fine and undistorted; it is a white Pardus leopard logo on a gray background. The boot menu screen also appears clearly; it allows me to choose the language and has other options for the graphical server (function key F4) and kernel options (F5).

However, no matter which option(s) I select via F4, F5 or simply using the defaults, after booting I am presented with a gray "TV-test-pattern-like" screen that is completely mixed up -- all the pixels are squashed together such that any text is illegible, and there is a dark black line at the top of the screen and a horizontal black band in the screen's middle.

< Edit: >

Here's a photo of the jumbled screen I'm trying to describe in the paragraph above:



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Late last night I downloaded a second .iso, from a different mirror, but I have not yet had the chance to burn it to DVD. I will try it tonight and report back what happens. If the gray, jumbled screen reoccurs, I will attempt to take a photo of my screen and post it here in the Forum.

I would also welcome any suggestions for a workaround. I hope we haven't uncovered a bug ...  

=david

This is a follow-up to bulaka's post, as well as a request for advice ...

For those who have taken the plunge and already installed Pardus 2011, did everything go smoothly and work correctly after the installation? Or did you experience some problems?

I'm guessing that it would probably be better to do a fresh installation of 2011 rather than attempt an upgrade of 2009.2, but I would like to make an informed decision before doing this (and deleting my 2009.2 partition, which is working perfectly).

atolboo, do you have an opinion about this? (It seems like there have been many changes "under the hood," and as a general rule with operating systems, the more changes, the greater the chance for breakage during an upgrade).

I downloaded the Installation DVD .iso today using FileZilla; it took over 4 hours, as the transfer speed from the Turkish FTP server was very slow (averaging approx. 50 KB/s). Luckily, the md5sum and sha1sum checked out fine, so I have a valid .iso file to burn.

Thanks in advance for your advice / opinions,
=david

In case anyone is searching for the md5sums and the sha1sums of the new Pardus 2011 release, here they are:

For the Installation DVD .iso:

md5sums:


sha1sums:


For the Live Image:

md5sums:


sha1sums:


These were taken from the Turkish FTP server which atolboo mentioned in the first post in this thread:

ftp://ftp.pardus.org.tr/pub/ISO/Installation/2011/

ftp://ftp.pardus.org.tr/pub/ISO/Live/2011/

Merhaba, Bekir,

,Cok memnun oldum. (I've now written 50% of the Turkish words I know!) It's nice to have you here in the English User Forum; we will be grateful for any tidbits of translated news / updates you can provide, as Turkish is somewhat difficult for non-Turks to learn. I too have tried using Google Translate to translate brief items from the Pardus website and (Turkish-language) forum, and as SW points out, the results sound like something from another planet -- maybe Martian?

If you are bringing in Turkish food with you, I would like to request one of my favorite dishes: zeytinyagli fasulye. Yum ... 

I hope you will feel welcome here. It's not a large User Forum but there is no shortage of friendly, helpful people.

=david

For those who celebrate Christmas:

Merry Christmas! May you have a joyous, blessed day, surrounded by your family and friends.

For those who don't celebrate this holiday:

Best wishes for a Happy New Year 2011, full of health, peace and accomplishment (both personal and professional).

I am grateful for this User Forum, the extended community and the helpful information it provides. I appreciate the hard work that the Pardus developers are doing to give us a stable, secure, modern operating system. I look forward to the upcoming releases and may even try installing Pardus Corporate 2 on a spare partition when its final version is ready. 

=david

Hello, everyone,

Linux Journal conducts an annual poll of users and asks them to vote in various categories (Best Distro, Best Office Suite, Best Web Browser, etc.). More than 12,000 people participated this year and the results have been tallied. Pardus was mentioned twice:

Best Linux Distribution
5th Place: Pardus

(1. Ubuntu ; 2. PCLinuxOS ; 3. Debian ; 4. Fedora)

Product of the Year
5th Place: Pardus

(1. Android ; 2. KDE ; 3. Fluendo DVD Player ; 4. zabbix)

That's a very respectable showing, in my opinion, and I congratulate the Pardus development team and everyone else who helps with the project.

Complete results are available here:

http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/readers-choice-awards-2010

(I was also pleased to see that PCLinuxOS did well, as I'm a longtime PCLOS user. We are fortunate that Linux just keeps getting better and gives us so many excellent choices).

Hi, Linuzoid,

Thanks for creating these Pardus wallpapers and making them freely available. You do great work. (I have Bradical set as my default wallpaper right now). As a PCLinuxOS user, I have also downloaded several of your PCLOS wallpapers; I especially like Dobie Splashed and SimpleKogs.

With best wishes,
=david