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76  General / Wish list / Re: Skrooge on: February 07, 2010, 19:56:27 PM
In case anyone is feeling adventurous, it is possible to compile Skrooge from source on Pardus. (I'm not especially brave or skilled, and I was able to compile version 0.5.5 on Pardus 2009.1. I have been using it for about two weeks now, and it is working fine -- saving files, calculating correctly, etc.). AFAIK, Skrooge has not damaged anything on my system.

I will try to write up a more detailed how-to, but I have another project I need to finish first. In the meantime, here are the basic steps ...

The source files and instructions are here:


(Note: They have just released stable ver. 0.6.0).

After downloading the source files and reading the instructions, you will need to install the following packages in Pardus:

kdelibs-devel 4.3.4
libofx 0.9.1
qca2-apidocs 2.0.2
Pardus's Build Essentials package (via the Konsole):
(This includes utilities such as gcc, make, automake and cmake. It will also install other tools which you don't need at the moment, but may come in handy later).  

From here, if you follow the instructions on Skrooge's website, you should be able to successfully build Skrooge. On my old system, the make process took about 30 minutes; it was the only application I had up and running. If you have a faster, more powerful processor, the make process will take less time. (On my new system [specs given below], it took make about 5 minutes to build Skrooge ver. 0.6.0).

After installing Skrooge, you might run into one quirk the first time you try to start it. A dialog box will pop up with a message to the effect that "This will run the program Skrooge [for the first time]. If you trust it, click the OK button." (I did not write down the exact message, so I'm relying on memory).

Once you click on the OK button, Skrooge should start. An entry for the program was added under the Applications > Office menu.
77  Assistance / Pardus for beginners / Re: New with questions on: January 30, 2010, 22:26:45 PM
It is the code tag on the pisi it row, it does not break. Its just the way it is.

Thank you for the explanation, trixon. I couldn't figure out what was wrong but it was driving me crazy. It makes me realize how much I rely on visual layout both when I'm reading and typing / composing something.
78  Assistance / Pardus for beginners / Re: New with questions on: January 30, 2010, 22:18:32 PM
There is a much easier way to do this.
Check in Package Manager if "kde-servicemenu-rootactions" has been installed (should be installed by default).
Go in Dolphin to the directory /etc and right-click on sudoers > Root action > Open as text. That's all. Cheesy

Hi, atolboo,

Thanks for the tip, you know your stuff! For some unknown reason, the package above was not installed by default on my system. I just installed it and now I'm able to open the sudoers file as root, with KWrite, via a right click. Easier than using Emacs (of which I have basic knowledge) and less terrifying than using vi (which strikes fear into my heart).

Thank you also for posting the contents of your sudoers file. As far as I can tell, it looks identical to mine.

79  Assistance / Pardus for beginners / Re: New with questions on: January 30, 2010, 20:58:10 PM
Hi, ForeverLinuxUser,

This is just a thought ... Based on the output you posted from your Terminal, I'm wondering if maybe you mistyped your username's password (remember that the Terminal / Konsole is very picky about spelling, case-sensitivity and spacing) or mistakenly tried to enter the root (/) account's password. When you use sudo, the system prompts you to enter your username's password, not the password of the root (/) account. It's easy to make a typo (since the Terminal doesn't echo back your password), so you might try again -- slowly and carefully.

I think what Andreas meant when he said that 
Documents $ sudo pisi it

is wrong, is that sudo would not work from within your /Documents directory -- which is where you were when you issued the command. I suppose that it is better to be in your /home directory when you type a sudo command. However, as a test I just installed the Bluefish editor using sudo from within my Documents directory, and it worked fine.

Regarding what trixon wrote, it made me curious enough to look at the sudoers file (which is located in /etc/sudoers). I opened it as a root user with Emacs and will post some of the file's contents below. I don't completely understand it, but it appears to me that perhaps all users on the system are included [??]. Hopefully someone can clarify this for us; I don't remember having to do anything special to include myself in the sudoers file when I first installed Pardus ...

# sudoers file.
# This file MUST be edited with the 'visudo' command as root.
# See the sudoers man page for the details on how to write a sudoers file.

[ . . . text omitted . . .]

# User privilege specification
root ALL=(ALL) ALL

# Uncomment to allow people in group wheel to run all commands
%wheel ALL=(ALL) ALL

# Same thing without a password

Hope this helps. And by the way, is something weird going on with the Forum display today? The text display bleeds about 3 miles into the right-hand margin of the window. It's annoying!  Angry  Did I do something wrong, or is it like this for everyone? (Plus it's not having this problem with displaying other websites).
80  Assistance / Pardus for beginners / Re: New with questions on: January 30, 2010, 05:44:41 AM
Hi, ForeverLinuxUser,

Just in case we misunderstood your question (since it can be interpreted in two different ways), I'd like to offer a clarification:

If you want to change your PulseAudio settings, you'll find it under Applications > Multimedia > Sound Server Preferences.

(I think this is what Andreas meant with his answer).

If you're looking for the GUI version of PiSi, you'll find it under Applications > System > Package Manager.

That was easy enough that even I could answer it.  Smiley  HTH,
81  Assistance / Hardware / Re: another resolution nvidia problem on: January 28, 2010, 15:58:03 PM
Hi, nougah,

This is just a stab in the dark ... and you may have found this with a Google search (apologies if you've already seen it), but the link below has some good general info on Nvidia drivers which applies to any Linux distro:

"Fedora Nvidia Driver Install Guide." Updated 2 Dec. 2009.

< Edit: The thread below -- although specific to Fedora -- includes a step which involves modifying your grub.conf file. According to leigh123linux (a Fedora User Forum administrator who knows his Linux well), if you do not blacklist the nouveau driver, the Nvidia driver will not load properly:

"F[edora] 12, F11 & F10 Nvidia driver guides."

This is just an educated guess on my part, but I'm adding it in case it might be of help to you. It probably wouldn't hurt to try it. >

I will be following this thread with interest because I recently ordered a new computer with an MSI motherboard which has an integrated Nvidia GeForce 6100 video card. (I'm still waiting for it to be delivered). Before making the decision, I searched quite a bit and it seemed that Linux support for this model was pretty good. However, I've run across some cases where users are having trouble properly configuring their cards ... I intend to install Pardus 2009.1 on the new PC, so I'll just have to wait and see whether the card is auto-detected and configured without much hassle.

HTH and Good luck,
82  Assistance / Software / Re: Amazon MP3 Downloads on: January 26, 2010, 22:22:36 PM
Hi, brirus,

There is a "Wish List" section of this forum [see below], but the most effective / direct way is to request it via the Pardus developers' bugzilla, as outlined here:

"How to request pisi packages from developers." 4 May 2009.

[Done by using Pardus bugzilla. First, you need to register with bugzilla.]

I'm a relatively new Pardus user myself, so if this info is inaccurate, I hope one of our experts will step in and correct me.

Wish list [Forum section]

83  Assistance / Software / Re: Amazon MP3 Downloads on: January 26, 2010, 18:59:43 PM
Hi, brirus,

Although I realize that this does not directly help you with your Amazon MP3 program, I thought I'd mention a couple of alternative music sources you might be interested in exploring. These two are already Linux-friendly, so you don't have to install a special utility program to use them:

Jamendo [free]

- [Free] Registration required before downloading
- No DRM
- Users can preview music before downloading
- Available in .mp3 or .ogg format
- Many albums available, with a wide variety of genres

It takes some time to search for music and preview it, but I've found some interesting, high-quality music via Jamendo.


- Independent record label ("We're not evil")
- No DRM
- Users can preview music in MP3 format before deciding to purchase
- Variety of audio formats available: .wav, .flac, .mp3, .ogg
- Artists receive 50% of proceeds
- Buyers decide their own purchase price (typically from US $5 to $18 per album)

I've not yet purchased anything from Magnatune but have enjoyed browsing through their classical music section.

The Amazon MP3 downloader for Linux is a nice gesture on their part, but considering the variety of Linux package formats out there, I think they should make an effort to create a utility that is more "distro-agnostic" (i.e., that could be easily compiled from source using a few commands from a Terminal).

It might be worthwhile to contact Amazon Customer Service by e-mail to let them know that you're a Linux user who'd like to purchase music from them, but cannot because your distro's packaging format isn't supported. (I too would be interested in using it. Their .rpm package won't work with my other main distro [PCLinuxOS]; some PCLOS users have tried to get it working but haven't succeeded, AFAIK).
84  Assistance / Pardus for beginners / Re: cd/dvd burner? k3b for kde4? on: January 23, 2010, 07:06:04 AM
Hi again, jan37,

I can double-check, but I don't think that K3b comes as part of the Live CD. (If it were included, I don't know for sure that you could use K3b from the Live CD to burn an .iso file, even if you had a second CD-RW drive in your computer).

K3b comes as one of the default apps when you install Pardus to your hard drive. I currently have K3b ver. 1.69.0.

If you're using Windows and need to burn an .iso of the 2009.1 Install CD, you can use a program such as Nero or EasyCD Creator to do that. If you need a free Windows app to burn ISOs, I've seen CDBurnerXP mentioned:


I'm sorry I can't verify this firsthand, but we don't have any Windows OSes at home. Hopefully someone here who dual-boots with Windows can help you if necessary ...
85  Assistance / Pardus for beginners / Re: (SOLVED)internet connection on: January 23, 2010, 06:17:21 AM
Hi, jan37,

You're very welcome. I'm glad my directions helped you get online. See, sometimes patience is a virtue.  Smiley

Yes, I agree with your impression that the Live CD is sluggish. My system specs are very similar to yours (mine are in my signature file below) and it takes quite a while for the Live CD to load -- and even afterwards, the response times are slow. However, this is typical of Live CDs, since a CD-ROM drive is much slower than even the slowest hard disk.

I can guarantee that if you install Pardus to your hard drive, things will speed up considerably. I'm pretty happy with the speed of Pardus and KDE 4 on my computer. I wouldn't say that its performance is snappy/zippy, but is more than acceptable for average tasks, IMHO.

I have not experienced freezes or lockups. The one thing I've noticed is that under certain conditions, the cursor (or tool tip) will quiver or vibrate while waiting for something to load. It's not bad, but to me it's a sign that my integrated video card (a ProSavage something from around 2000-2001) is close to being maxed out. I think that video card is the weakest link in my hardware chain ... 

86  Assistance / Pardus for beginners / Re: New with questions on: January 23, 2010, 05:54:45 AM
Hi, ForeverLinuxUser,

I just checked two repos (the "official" repo [pardus-2009] and the contributed repo [contrib-2009]) and looked for the packages you mentioned. The results are listed below.

I should also mention that there is a "testing" repo which is experimental and for adventurous souls. I don't have that repo enabled, so I didn't search it ... It's possible that some of the missing apps you want might be there. Hopefully someone who has this repository enabled will report back on what they found.


audacity 1.3.8
blender 2.49b
cinelerra 2.1_20091024
gimp 2.6.8
lives 1.0.8



87  Assistance / Pardus for beginners / Re: internet connection on: January 22, 2010, 21:31:09 PM
Hi, jan37,

I just read your reply. Sorry to hear that the problem is not yet solved ... Please take a look at the mini-tutorial below and see if it helps you any. (I wrote it up last night but didn't have time to post it).

I think that the link atolboo provided to the Wiki should give you a good start at configuring your Internet connection with the Kaptan Desktop [Wizard]. You will reach that portion of the configuration process several steps in, after you have selected a keyboard, folder view style, etc.

I suggest that you take your best guess at Internet configuration using the Kaptan Desktop. When you finish the initial setup, if your Internet connection is not working, don't panic. Try the procedure below, and with a bit of luck, you will be able to get online with the Live CD.


If your Internet Connection profile was not saved during your initial setup with the Kaptan Desktop [Wizard], or is not working, try this:

a. Click on the Network Manager applet. (It is in the taskbar, at the bottom of your screen).

b. The applet may be displaying a message that says "No Active Connection" (or something similar -- I didn't write this down) with a yellow warning triangle. Don't worry; just continue with the steps below.

c. Click on the applet's Open Network Manager button.

[Note: The steps below are for setting up a connection using a wired Ethernet card. I do not have any experience configuring a wireless connection, since I don't have wireless capability at home].

d. (Now you will be repeating the same steps that the Kaptan Desktop walks you through when you first start up the Live CD). Click on the Create Profile drop-down button and select the Ethernet - eth0 option.

e. In the pop-up window, type a name in the Profile Name box. I simply called my profile "Ethernet Card," but as Michiel pointed out, you can name it whatever you wish.

f. In the Network Settings section, choose Use DHCP by clicking the radio button beside it. (I'm guessing this is what you want if you have a typical DSL or cable Internet connection).

g. In the Name Servers section (a bit farther down in the dialog window), choose Default by clicking the radio button beside it.

g. 1. See my attached snapshotA for a screenshot of this configuration window. (I apologize that it is rather dark, but I chose the "Elegance" theme when I set up the Live CD session, without thinking ahead that I would need to take some screenshots).

h. When you finish these steps, click on the Apply button. Wait patiently a few seconds.

i. A new window will pop up; see my attached snapshotB for a screenshot.

j. Put a checkmark in the empty box next to your [Profile Name] Ethernet jack icon.

k. After a few seconds, you should see a system message that says "Connecting ..."

l. Then you should see a green checkmark appear, with the message: "Connected:" [or whatever your relevant IP address is].

m. You should now have an active Internet connection. If you look down at the Network Manager applet in the taskbar, you should see it partially illuminated, and below the Earth's sphere, you will see little green and red LEDs blinking.

HTH. Good luck,
88  General / Introduce yourself / Re: Hello from Bucharest, Romania on: January 21, 2010, 22:36:53 PM
Hi, Cristi,

You're flattering me unnecessarily because I don't speak Romanian; I only typed two words, so that doesn't count.  Smiley I have tried some self-study with Romanian a couple of times (with the Teach Yourself series and with a book in Routledge's Colloquial series) but was a lazy student and didn't make much progress. I still think that limba romana is fascinating, though. I've heard it spoken some; its rhythm and "music" remind me of Italian. I have a background in the Romance languages, so I can recognize a fair number of Latin-derived words but the borrowings from the Slavic family and elsewhere are completely mysterious to me. (I enjoy dabbling with foreign languages as a hobby).

I looked at the link to your blog and your review of Pardus seems very thorough -- with plenty of screenshots. I couldn't understand much of the comments you received, though.

89  Assistance / Pardus for beginners / Re: internet connection on: January 21, 2010, 21:50:10 PM
Hi, jan37,

I'm away from my Linux box at the moment, but I will try to write down some specific steps for you this evening. I tried out the 2009.1 Live CD last night, so I know what you're talking about ...

It worked fine for me. We have a DSL connection at home and I asked the system to use the Ethernet card (the computer's only option). If I remember correctly, I just typed in "Ethernet" for the profile name and proceeded from there.

I think that once you have named the profile, you have to choose the Connection Method / Protocol. (In my case, it was DHCP). If you have a 56K dial-up modem connection, I might not be able to help you much.

There is a small button labelled "Apply" (or "Test" or something similar). I clicked on that button, and after a few seconds, the system found my Ethernet card and automatically connected to the Internet. It wasn't difficult ... Again, I'm relying on my (faulty) memory, so I'll check tonight and post back for you. 

Re: The mountain:
I'm not 100% sure, but I believe that is the famous Mount Ararat:


I trust that someone will correct me if I'm wrong.


90  Assistance / News & Announcements / Re: Pardus 2009.1 (release schedule) on: January 21, 2010, 19:12:56 PM
I don't know where you found it,

Hello David,

I found it here  Wink

Thanks for the link, Andreas. I had done some searching to find this information but had no luck. Mein Deutsch ist ausgezeichschlecht  Embarrassed but I used a dictionary (the French phrase "lire quelque chose `a coups de dictionnaire" ['to read something by blows of the dictionary', i.e., laboriously, having to look up every third or fourth word] comes to mind) and I have a rough translation of that post:

Quote: This password question is a real fault in the Live CD.

Reply from SW: Well, whoever wishes to "play" more in depth with the Live CD and fails because of the password question, can perhaps be helped with this:

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