Hi, jan37,

I just read your reply. Sorry to hear that the problem is not yet solved ... Please take a look at the mini-tutorial below and see if it helps you any. (I wrote it up last night but didn't have time to post it).

I think that the link atolboo provided to the Wiki should give you a good start at configuring your Internet connection with the Kaptan Desktop [Wizard]. You will reach that portion of the configuration process several steps in, after you have selected a keyboard, folder view style, etc.

I suggest that you take your best guess at Internet configuration using the Kaptan Desktop. When you finish the initial setup, if your Internet connection is not working, don't panic. Try the procedure below, and with a bit of luck, you will be able to get online with the Live CD.

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If your Internet Connection profile was not saved during your initial setup with the Kaptan Desktop [Wizard], or is not working, try this:

a. Click on the Network Manager applet. (It is in the taskbar, at the bottom of your screen).

b. The applet may be displaying a message that says "No Active Connection" (or something similar -- I didn't write this down) with a yellow warning triangle. Don't worry; just continue with the steps below.

c. Click on the applet's Open Network Manager button.

[Note: The steps below are for setting up a connection using a wired Ethernet card. I do not have any experience configuring a wireless connection, since I don't have wireless capability at home].

d. (Now you will be repeating the same steps that the Kaptan Desktop walks you through when you first start up the Live CD). Click on the Create Profile drop-down button and select the Ethernet - eth0 option.

e. In the pop-up window, type a name in the Profile Name box. I simply called my profile "Ethernet Card," but as Michiel pointed out, you can name it whatever you wish.

f. In the Network Settings section, choose Use DHCP by clicking the radio button beside it. (I'm guessing this is what you want if you have a typical DSL or cable Internet connection).

g. In the Name Servers section (a bit farther down in the dialog window), choose Default by clicking the radio button beside it.

g. 1. See my attached snapshotA for a screenshot of this configuration window. (I apologize that it is rather dark, but I chose the "Elegance" theme when I set up the Live CD session, without thinking ahead that I would need to take some screenshots).

h. When you finish these steps, click on the Apply button. Wait patiently a few seconds.

i. A new window will pop up; see my attached snapshotB for a screenshot.

j. Put a checkmark in the empty box next to your [Profile Name] Ethernet jack icon.

k. After a few seconds, you should see a system message that says "Connecting ..."

l. Then you should see a green checkmark appear, with the message: "Connected: 192.168.1.33" [or whatever your relevant IP address is].

m. You should now have an active Internet connection. If you look down at the Network Manager applet in the taskbar, you should see it partially illuminated, and below the Earth's sphere, you will see little green and red LEDs blinking.

HTH. Good luck,
=david

Hi, Cristi,

You're flattering me unnecessarily because I don't speak Romanian; I only typed two words, so that doesn't count.  I have tried some self-study with Romanian a couple of times (with the Teach Yourself series and with a book in Routledge's Colloquial series) but was a lazy student and didn't make much progress. I still think that limba romana is fascinating, though. I've heard it spoken some; its rhythm and "music" remind me of Italian. I have a background in the Romance languages, so I can recognize a fair number of Latin-derived words but the borrowings from the Slavic family and elsewhere are completely mysterious to me. (I enjoy dabbling with foreign languages as a hobby).

I looked at the link to your blog and your review of Pardus seems very thorough -- with plenty of screenshots. I couldn't understand much of the comments you received, though.

=david

Hi, jan37,

I'm away from my Linux box at the moment, but I will try to write down some specific steps for you this evening. I tried out the 2009.1 Live CD last night, so I know what you're talking about ...

It worked fine for me. We have a DSL connection at home and I asked the system to use the Ethernet card (the computer's only option). If I remember correctly, I just typed in "Ethernet" for the profile name and proceeded from there.

I think that once you have named the profile, you have to choose the Connection Method / Protocol. (In my case, it was DHCP). If you have a 56K dial-up modem connection, I might not be able to help you much.

There is a small button labelled "Apply" (or "Test" or something similar). I clicked on that button, and after a few seconds, the system found my Ethernet card and automatically connected to the Internet. It wasn't difficult ... Again, I'm relying on my (faulty) memory, so I'll check tonight and post back for you. 

Re: The mountain:
I'm not 100% sure, but I believe that is the famous Mount Ararat:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Ararat

I trust that someone will correct me if I'm wrong.

HTH,
=david

Thanks for the link, Andreas. I had done some searching to find this information but had no luck. Mein Deutsch ist ausgezeichschlecht  but I used a dictionary (the French phrase "lire quelque chose `a coups de dictionnaire" ['to read something by blows of the dictionary', i.e., laboriously, having to look up every third or fourth word] comes to mind) and I have a rough translation of that post:

Quote: This password question is a real fault in the Live CD.

Reply from SW: Well, whoever wishes to "play" more in depth with the Live CD and fails because of the password question, can perhaps be helped with this:

[ . . .]

 

Hi, Andreas,

Thanks very much for the info! I don't know where you found it, but I'm glad to know the logins. I'll stick a note in the CD's jewel case to remind me.

With best wishes,
=david

Hi,

Last night I downloaded and burned the .iso for the Live CD because I was interested in trying it out. I verified the md5sum {*}; everything went fine. The Live CD looks great and includes a good selection of applications.

However, I noticed that the Live CD seems to use a / (root) login. When I logged out, it returned me to a usual KDM login screen, but there was no indication whether a regular user account is available, and if so, what the username and password are ... (I tried logging in as user "guest" with a password of "guest", but it didn't work).

Am I missing something, or is the only possible user a root account?

Thanks.

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{*}. The md5sums for both the 2009.1 Live CD and Install CD can be found in the Wiki:

http://en.pardus-wiki.org/Pardus:Download

Buna ziua, Cristi,

Welcome to Pardus and the Pardus Worldforum! I hope you'll enjoy the forum; it isn't as big or busy as some, but we have friendly, knowledgeable people here who are willing to help.

You've been using Pardus longer than I have. I installed Pardus on a spare partition of my second hard drive about 3 months ago, and it is becoming my favorite distro. (I also use PCLinuxOS and Ubuntu Hardy Heron). Each distro has its strengths, but I especially admire the Turkish government's commitment to Linux / Open Source and the fact that they created Pardus from scratch. I think Pardus is easy to use and would be a good choice for any newcomer to Linux; I hope its popularity will grow and spread more widely outside of Turkey.

Have fun here and I'll look forward to seeing your posts.
=david

Hi, atolboo,

I chose [1]. Logout, thinking that it would take me back as usual to the KDM login manager, and from KDM I would choose to immediately restart the computer. That's when it froze at the black screen; I never made it back to KDM, and the computer did not respond to any keyboard commands.

So, in retrospect, option [2]. Restart Computer would probably have been the correct choice. I'm guessing the computer froze due to my error. If nothing else, other users may benefit from my dumb mistake.    I will know better next time.

Using Reset was not a graceful exit, but it does not seem to have done any harm -- although I'm thinking now that it would be a good idea to run fsck on my hard disk to see if any sectors were damaged. (Well, I ran fsck on my drive using a Fedora 11 Live CD, and all the partitions showed as "clean" / OK. The Live CD also includes Palimpsest Disk Utility [ver. 0.3]; it ran a S.M.A.R.T. Self-test and my hard drive passed without any errors. So my /sdb seems to have survived my poor choice of exit method).

Thanks for your help,
=david

I upgraded to 2009.1 this afternoon (via the Dutch repositories), and like kondorv's experience, my upgrade was smooth -- except for one minor glitch. I used the # pisi upgrade command from the Konsole. 173 packages were upgraded [226.5 MB]; I would estimate that the download and installation took about 80 minutes using our home DSL connection.

When the update was complete, I ran into a minor problem. I logged out of my account in order to restart the computer (because of the kernel upgrade to 2.6.31.11), but immediately after logging out, the PC froze / hung up with a black screen and a blinking cursor. I waited several minutes but nothing was happening -- no command line prompt appeared, and no response to the Ctrl-Alt-Backspace command. I finally decided that my only option was to press the Reset button. I did that and the computer rebooted as normal; a GRUB entry for the new release and kernel (Pardus 2009.1 Anthropoides virgo (Kernel 2.6.31.11)) had already been added automatically. I'm not sure whether this hang-up is a bug, is something specific to my hardware, or whether I might have unintentionally done something to cause it (although I don't think I did) ...  

Congratulations and sincere thanks to the Pardus developers and everyone who helped with this new release!

P.S.

2009.1's codename is Anthropoides virgo, the scientific name for the Demoiselle crane. Some of these cranes live in eastern Turkey, and they undertake an incredible migration over the Himalayas in order to reach their wintering grounds:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demoiselle_Crane

There are some new wallpapers for this release, which you can get a glimpse of here:

http://blog.bluzz.net/pardus-2009-1-anthropoides-virgo-flies-in-the-sky/

You'll also see a new KDE splash screen (with a white Pardus leopard replacing the blue KDE logo), a new Network Manager applet icon, plus I'm sure that I'll discover many other new things as I explore.



 

You're very welcome; I'm glad that worked for you. I wouldn't have known about the pisi up command if atolboo hadn't mentioned it when I introduced myself in this User Forum. 

Another thread you might want to take a look at discusses using PiSi's GUI vs. command line PiSi:

http://worldforum.pardus-linux.nl/index.php?topic=3090.0

I've found that using a combination of the Package Manager's GUI and the command line works well for me. There's a good section on PiSi CLI Usage in the Wiki:

http://en.pardus-wiki.org/Pisi_CLI_Usage

Good luck and I hope you'll continue enjoying Pardus!

Hi, Hastings101,

I too am a relative newcomer to Pardus (I've been using it about two months), so this suggestion is a guess on my part and it might not solve your problem. But did you follow the instructions below, before you attempted your very first update?

http://bit.ly/7Lxij6
"Before doing any update."
[From the Pardus 2009 Wiki]

Open System > Konsole Terminal and enter the following command:


(Note: You only have to issue that command once, right after a new installation and before you do your first update of the system. You do not have to run the command before subsequent updates).

Another possible cause might be that you have run into the down repository problem recently reported by Andreas:

http://worldforum.pardus-linux.nl/index.php?topic=3148.0
"User-Repo down." 10 Jan. 2010.

If you're using the default Turkish repos, you might consider switching to one of the alternative repositories mentioned in this discussion thread:

http://worldforum.pardus-linux.nl/index.php?topic=2919.0
"Slow official repos?"

(I'm using the Dutch repositories and they have been working fine for me, even though I'm located in Texas).

HTH. With best wishes,
=david

I would like to request Skrooge, a personal finance manager for KDE 4, which has become part of KDE Extragear (in the Office module). The program's current version is 0.5.5.

Directions for getting the source code can be found here:

http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/Skrooge

This same webpage also lists the required dependencies. (The one that appears to be missing in the Pardus 2009 repos is libofx).

I have been using Skrooge in PCLinuxOS and now have about 2.5 months' worth of checkbook data in it. It has been stable for me -- with no crashes or freezes. Unlike HomeBank, it can handle split transactions (with multiple splits, if necessary) and it has a reconciliation feature which is similar to KMyMoney and/or Quicken. The program's User Interface does require a bit of time in order to get accustomed to it, but the main developers (St'ephane and Guillaume) are open to users' suggestions and Skrooge's documentation is pretty good.

I believe that Skrooge would be a worthwhile addition to the official Pardus repos -- and of course, the KDE 4 version of KMyMoney when it is ready.

Thanks,
=david

P.S.
In case someone thinks I am being unfair to HomeBank, I am also using HomeBank 4.1 in my Pardus 2009 installation. I have entered the same 2.5 months' worth of data into it, but I prefer Skrooge for the reasons stated above.

I have a semi-workaround for the split transaction problem -- although I imagine this probably violates every known principle of accounting. For example, if I have written a check for $86.00 at the local Super Target store (a US-based department-type store which also sells groceries) and that amount was split between different expense categories, I create separate transactions for each relevant category. For example:

11/03/2009 check # 4662 target $38.00 Clothing
11/03/2009 check # 4662 target $34.00 Food:Groceries
11/03/2009 check # 4662 target $14.00 Household Items

It's not a clean solution, but the program allows you to do it (i.e., it does not protest that there are duplicate check numbers) and this way, you can better track expense categories.

Hola, Nicolás,

Feliz Año Nuevo! Although I cannot give you much useful advice on how to configure wvdialconf, I wanted to let you know that package is in the Pardus 2009 repositories. I searched for it just now and found it:

wvdial 1.60
pardus-2009
63.0 KB

I am using the Dutch repositories at ftp.surfnet.nl, rather than the default Turkish repos. For more info, please see the following thread:

http://worldforum.pardus-linux.nl/index.php?topic=2919.0
"Slow official repos?"

< Edit: >

I had time for some more searching, and although I am not 100% certain, I think that when you run wvdial for the first time, you can make it create the wvdial.conf file you need. (The directions quoted below refer to the antiX MEPIS distribution, but I would guess that the basics of this are very similar from one distro to another):

http://reddevil62-techhead.blogspot.com/2008_08_03_archive.html
"Huawei E220 3G/HSDPA USB Modem + antiX Mepis 7.5."


You might also find Lisa Marie's post below to have useful information:

http://worldforum.pardus-linux.nl/index.php?topic=2485.0
"can't connect internet ; kppp crashing when try to set up account & password."
(Her reply is # 4)


Le deseo buena suerte en cuanto a la resolución de su problema. Que le vaya bien,
=david

Hi, Andreas and atolboo,

Thank you for the explanation of why KMyMoney won't work. Last night I began reading HomeBank's Help documentation and I've decided to give it a trial run. (It looks it will take some time to initially set up payees and income / expense categories). I have an idea for a workaround with split transactions, but I won't know whether it works until I try it.

(I still have a working copy of KMM on my Ubuntu and PCLinuxOS partitions, so if HomeBank doesn't suit my needs, it won't be a crisis. I also maintain a simple OpenOffice.org Calc spreadsheet which has a checkbook template. I have experimented with GnuCash, but it was hard for me to understand its double-entry accounting and I found the interface confusing. My impression is that GnuCash is geared more towards people with an accounting background and/or small businesses). 

Thanks,
=david

Hi, atolboo,

Thanks for your reply and suggestions. My attempt at installing the P2008 version was successful (at least according to PiSi), but I saw no trace of KMyMoney anywhere in the menus (I would have expected it to be under Applications > Office) and I couldn't get the program to run from the Konsole -- either as a regular user or as root. So I removed it. 

I followed your strategy: I did not add the P2008 repo to Package Manager, but directly downloaded the .pisi package and saved it in my /home directory. Next, I installed it via the Konsole. It notified me that KMM had been installed successfully (no mention of any dependencies being installed along with it). However, as I said, I couldn't find any sign of KMM and it would not run from the command line. (I used this same technique to install Michiel's package of Abiword and it worked fine). My guess is that the KMyMoney package must be incomplete.

It makes me wonder which app people are using on P2009 for their finances ... Is everyone using HomeBank?

Met vriendlijke groeten,
=david