Thanks again.

Apparently there is no panda package for Pardus 2009.2 so I can't check which driver is actually being used and the last time I selected a different driver from the list (on another machine), I couldn't log back in to the graphical desktop and it took a long time to fix it so I'm wary of trying that again. I just wish I could really pin down which driver is being used.

I don't use Kwin on this laptop (although it does work ok with whatever this driver is) so that's not a problem. My main puzzle is, that given the fglrx module/driver is not installed on this laptop and it's working fine with whatever the driver being used is, then why doesn't Pardus 2011.1 work as well (also with Kwin disabled) with the same (apparently, according to lsmod, if that's what is shows) driver?

I really like Pardus and KDE and I don't want to change to another distro, so I'll just stick with Pardus 2009.2 on the laptop.

Thanks SW, I appreciate the assistance. I'm a bit confused about this whole thing though. I reinstalled Pardus 2009.2 and the lsmod output is similar to Pardus 2011.1:

Pardus 2009.2:


Pardus 2011.1:



In the output above for Pardus 2009.2, it doesn't say VMware or Gallium. In the list of drivers in the Video Card Configuration I can see only radeon, radeonhd, ati and vmware. So the output above seems to be saying that a driver called radeon driver is being used, not the official fglrx driver. Am I interpreting that correctly? Also, I searched in Package Manager for fglrx and found these uninstalled entries (see attached picture) so maybe the official fglrx driver wasn't being used by default, maybe it is up to me to install it and then select it from the list of drivers. But then why does it already mention ati and vmware in the dropdown list of drivers?


Just want to be clear on this. My (and yours) graphics chip is:


So it seems that whatever applies to chip R300 also applies to the RV350, is that right?


Yes, a regression. Just goes to show that new is not always better.


We're all in it together!

On a side note, in the output of lshw into html, the "display" section that shows my chip details, is in red, as are a three or four other entries. Anyone know what this means?

So I installed Pardus 2011.1 to the laptop hard drive and got the same error as I did with flash stick install. Then tried an install with Pardus 2011 to the hard drive and that worked fine.

I filed a bug in Padus Bugzilla only to get a Bugzilla error when I pressed Commit... argh! Have written to the admins as requested by the error page and await a reply.

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So I'm guessing that Pardus 2009.2 is using the same driver as Pardus 2011.1 if it's using the open source driver. So, what would make it perform worse on 2011.1? Any ideas welcome.

Thanks, I had a look but they seem to be for computers with two graphic cards/chips. I'm going to have to reinstall Pardus 2009.2 and see what driver was being used then because it was working well. Don't understand why Pardus 2011.1 is not using the same one.

Ah, well thanks for pointing that out. It is bad news, indeed. The open source driver is, at the moment, not good enough. I see you have the same laptop as me only with twice as much RAM. Great little machine and was running Pardus 2009.2 really well. I wonder what driver 2009.2 was using because everything was working just fine. Do you happen to know? I think I'm going to go back to 2009.2 anyway, 2011/2011.1 is too problematic for me on this machine.

Changed my email preferences to English and it seems ok now. Maybe it was ok before and I'm just going mad...

Thanks. Looks like there is not a solution at the moment then. There is just the one graphics chip in this machine though so I'll file a bug when I can work out how to Pardus bugzilla in English.

Cheers.

I filled a bug before and had no problem but now when I log in it's all in Turkish and I can't see how to switch to English. Maybe I'm just missing something. Can anyone help?

I tried an install of Pardus 2011.1 on my laptop hard drive and got the same Unhandled Exception error as I did when installing it to the flash stick. So I installed Pardus 2011 and that went ok, no errors. I did the updates to get me to Pardus 2011.1. However, in the Display Settings the selection check box for the proprietary driver is greyed out so I can't install it. The video card/chip is:

lspci -nn | grep VGA
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: ATI Technologies Inc RV350 [Mobility Radeon 9600 M10] [1002:4e50]

The driver being used doesn't seem very good because when I drag a window it's very jerky and the edges break up. Just wondered if anyone else has the same video card/chip and has the same problem and is seeing the same thing in the Display Settings?

This was not happening with Pardus 2009.2 installed on the same laptop. I don't know which driver was being used (I didn't look) but window dragging was smooth, no problems at all.

Thanks for the link alex, I'll give it a read. Cheers.

Dale

Thanks for the link John. I don't have enough memory to run a VM but I've got it bookmarked for future reference. Cheers.

Dale

Yes, I was expecting it to, I'm just not in a hurry to repeat the experiment only to find it fails again at the last hurdle...

Dale

Ok, that's a yes.


Yes, I realise that I could install grub to the second (Pardus drive) drive MBR but if I did that I am not sure if Pardus would still show both the Windows and Pardus drive choice when I boot up?

I was doing the install to a USB stick form your guide here:

http://en.pardus-wiki.org/Creating_an_USB_device_in_order_to_test_any_Computer/Notebook/Netbook

I could try it again but it took a very long time, so I may try an install of Pardus 2011.1 to the hard drive of the laptop I am using instead of the USB stick. Just need to image the drive first so I can easily go back to how it is now.

Dale