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Assistance / Configuring Pardus / Re: Pardus 2011.1 ACPI problem in plasma/kde
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on: July 30, 2011, 23:00:39 PM
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I have since added Pardus 2011.1 64 bit testing repository to Package Manger. I did all of the updates, about twelve, which included baselayout, but it didn't help. Interesting, i have only one packet to update kdelibs and then my pardus 2011.1 is up to date. I assume this problem is upstream and we will have to wait for an update to KDE4. I think so too  ((( Perhaps there is some tricky workaround for any single problem. Someone has resolved setting: «The workaround, at least for me, is to edit /usr/share/kde4/services/kded/networkstatus.desktop and set X-KDE-Kded-autoload=false and X-KDE-Kded-load-on-demand=false, restarting kded4 afterwards.» I have tried it but without lucky. I'm trying to figure out how to write up this bug. I'll try to keep it simple and to the point.  the bug is already written: kded4 continually uses about 100% of one CPU core. Here's the output of `top i':
top - 13:53:26 up 1:50, 2 users, load average: 1.11, 1.40, 1.43
Tasks: 168 total, 2 running, 166 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie
Cpu(s): 1.2%us, 29.8%sy, 0.0%ni, 68.7%id, 0.0%wa, 0.1%hi, 0.2%si, 0.0%st
Mem: 1539740k total, 1525796k used, 13944k free, 29536k buffers
Swap: 20964784k total, 76060k used, 20888724k free, 589672k cached
PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND
1425 msl 20 0 387m 13m 9444 R 95 0.9 103:54.75 kded4
4670 msl 20 0 19132 1364 980 R 0 0.1 0:00.42 top
I'll also attach the output of sysprof.
This bug is a regression in KDE 4.4. The virtual machine is an upgraded clone
of a KDE 4.3.4 virtual machine, which runs in an identical environment and does
not exhibit the same problem.
Let me take the opportunity to thank you for your hard work on KDE. Tanks for the good job to all the KDE team the best Desktop manager  P.S. Have you tried disabling nepomuk in System Settings Dtrigi search? Previous versions of Pardus this was not enabled upon installation. Yes it is disabled in my configuration: Nepomuk/Strigi Server Configuration: Nepomuk system is inactive, strigi service not running. It is my old configuration, i have not delete my old /home. But i had try to make a new user when i used P2011 (not dama dama) and the problem was remained. |
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Assistance / Configuring Pardus / Re: Pardus 2011.1 ACPI problem in plasma/kde
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on: July 30, 2011, 21:11:12 PM
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Just a quick reply to confirm what you have asked me to check. Just to clarify, when I log in, kppp dial out, surf.... disconnect, close kppp, my desktop is normal. At least I think so (I am getting brain dead after so many reboots  ) It is when I start kppp again, connect, and while connect, if I click on programs like Package Manager, etc. they take forever to appear. This time as you suggested when this slowness occurred, I opened up htop, selected kded4 which showed 92%CPU usage, and killed it. As soon as it was killed, Package Manager appeared. Thanks for this tip! Will have to fine tune this bug report, but not NetworkManger, but kded4 (equivelant to kded in KDE3.5.10). Ciao, Lisa Marie Tanks for the feedback. The kded4 problem is vastly, this comment shows a problem like mine: «Bianca Kwey (biancakwey) wrote on 2011-05-05: #8 I'm having this problem too. I'm connect with a mobile broadband; the problem with kded4 happen when I try to disconnect. In the cd live knetwork manager; in the installed system (kubuntu 11.04 32 bit) when I try to disconnect kppp. CPU to 100% (intel pentium 4 3,20 Ghz)» And many other post here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-widget-networkmanagement/+bug/759209http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3116537.0ecc, ecc. http://www.google.com/search?q=kded4 |
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Assistance / Configuring Pardus / Re: Pardus 2011.1 ACPI problem in plasma/kde
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on: July 30, 2011, 20:19:42 PM
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To fix this, I have to open terminal and enter:
kded
or
kded --new-startup
Very interesting, an interesting coincidence. see also https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=935211 for a topic about 100% CPU usage cause kded4. (I think this kded is also known as kdeinit.)
Or, the only other alternative is to not close kppp. Yes, if you don't close kppp the kded4 is not created or maybe not bugged if created by other programs. I think we are getting closer to what causes this. Thanks again for the feedback, Sandro!
Lisa Marie
Thanks to you Lisa, best regards. |
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Assistance / Configuring Pardus / Re: Pardus 2011.1 ACPI problem in plasma/kde
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on: July 30, 2011, 19:51:45 PM
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Lisa i have another solution, very simple and very effective.
1) boot pardus
2) goto Terminal and type "top"
3) connect to Internet by kppp
4) close the connection
If you watch Terminal and the top command you observe that when you close the connection there is a precess named kded4 that sit down kde and used about 95% of the CPU time.
If you kill that process (kill -9 pid of kded4) you see kde immediately respond in real time. After the process killed if you reconnect to Internet and then disconnect the process kded4 is not recreated, so the problem disappear. The problem reappear after reboot.
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Assistance / Configuring Pardus / Re: Pardus 2011.1 ACPI problem in plasma/kde
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on: July 30, 2011, 17:12:35 PM
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I went ahead and changed this back to the default "True" and rebooted, and now Kwrite, Dolphin File Man. and Package Manager are slow to appear. So, maybe this does have something to do with NetworkManager. Still testing this.
Lisa marie
Hi Lisa, i have stop the service and set to false the startup service at boot, then reboot, open an image (ok), connect by kppp (ok), Disconnect (ok), open an image, it takes a lot of time. I have watch the services ant NM service is down. I have returned to the original setting. For me this solution don't works. |
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Assistance / Configuring Pardus / Re: Pardus 2011.1 ACPI problem in plasma/kde
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on: July 30, 2011, 16:44:50 PM
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Hello Sandro,
Your English is very good! TY very much but my English is a mix between English and Italian I have the dictionary that save me and the suggestion. I am happy to find another dialup user here! I thought I was only the only one. I use an Internet key for mobile ADSL connection and use kppp because it works fine and has the volume accounting for byte transfer counting. I have a limited volume accounting of 1 GB/month. I will try what you suggested. TY What I want to ask you is have you restarted your computer since the install and first login session? Yes i have installed P2011 in root (/) and leave /home untouched and i have reboot many times. I have not tuned the system, i'm using the default. When i resolved this problem i will set the automatic login, the num lock on at start up, i will disable some service that i not use, and so on. After I did, what happened upon next boot is I could not ping - no surf using browser. I looked at file:
/etc/resolv.conf
and it was empty of nameservers. I had to edit this file and add the nameservers manually.
What nameservers are you using? I have simply change the dns in kppp: Account DNS Configuration-> manual DNS address list: 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 Disable existing DNS servers during connection: check I'm still testing this problem by re-installing Pardus 2011.1 I did not have this problem with the beta release in January. I suppose is a simple DNS server problem, i have not this problem. Maybe Pardus 2011.1 have not a good DNS server management, maybe another bug? Right now I am thinking the problem is caused by NetworkManager, but I am not certain of this.
Regards, Lisa Marie
maybe, NM set a lot of things, i don't use NM, I use kppp because it is less invasive and has a volume accounting. bye |
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Assistance / Configuring Pardus / Re: Pardus 2011.1 ACPI problem in plasma/kde
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on: July 30, 2011, 14:13:51 PM
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The bug:
1) startup pardus (works fine)
2) open an image with gwenview (works fine)
3) connect to internet by kppp (works fine)
4) shutdown the connection by kpp (works fine)
5) open an image with gwenview (don't works, it take a lot of time.)
Lisa can you try it?
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Assistance / Configuring Pardus / Re: Pardus 2011.1 ACPI problem in plasma/kde
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on: July 30, 2011, 12:48:20 PM
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Hi Sandro and atolboo,
Same problem here. In my case, I use dial up which I use kppp to set up connection, and as soon as I disconnect and quit/close kppp, the desktop becomes slow in response when I click on File Manager, or Package Manager, takes about 40 seconds for these to finally appear. And, when I click on Leave>Shutdown or Restart, these usually show a window that shows the countdown to shutdown or restart, but instead, the desktop darkens and it takes hmmm, about a minute or more and then the window that shows the countdown to shutdown or restart shows, and it shuts down or restarts. Upon reboot or restart, his behavior doesn't start until I connect to the internet.
Lisa Marie
I use kppp too. After i connect to internet and then close the connection by kppp i usually shutdown and the system take about 0.5-1 minute to respond to my click to shutdown in k menu and the system freeze for 20 second. I suspect kppp and the internet connection too. his behavior doesn't start until I connect to the internet. Yes before i connect to internet all works great. but after i try to shutdown the pc for the first time when the system freeze and click cancel to confirmation window, i can shutdown at any time instantaneously. It Seems pardus don't works well when there is problem with shutdown. |
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Assistance / Configuring Pardus / Re: Pardus 2011.1 ACPI problem in plasma/kde
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on: July 29, 2011, 23:14:07 PM
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In Dolphin goto Root > var > log and activate Find > Content > Find: suspend .... And all files with "suspend" will be displayed. Maybe it's of any help  TY atolboo for the reply. aria log # cat *|grep -i suspend
cat: audit: Is a directory
cat: comar3: Is a directory
cat: ConsoleKit: Is a directory
cat: cups: Is a directory
cat: iptraf: Is a directory
cat: mysql: Is a directory
cat: news: Is a directory
cat: samba: Is a directory
[ 81.290] (II) RADEON(0): DPMS capabilities: StandBy Suspend Off; RGB/Color Display
[ 81.434] (II) RADEON(0): DPMS capabilities: StandBy Suspend Off; RGB/Color Display
[ 89.163] (II) RADEON(0): DPMS capabilities: StandBy Suspend Off; RGB/Color Display
[ 145.327] (II) RADEON(0): DPMS capabilities: StandBy Suspend Off; RGB/Color Display
[ 115.530] (II) RADEON(0): DPMS capabilities: StandBy Suspend Off; RGB/Color Display
[ 130.368] (II) RADEON(0): DPMS capabilities: StandBy Suspend Off; RGB/Color Display
[ 130.460] (II) RADEON(0): DPMS capabilities: StandBy Suspend Off; RGB/Color Display
[ 150.619] (II) RADEON(0): DPMS capabilities: StandBy Suspend Off; RGB/Color Display
[ 208.571] (II) RADEON(0): DPMS capabilities: StandBy Suspend Off; RGB/Color Display
2011-07-29 16:43:19,091: DEBUG Pisi: suspend installing
2011-07-29 16:56:17,033: DEBUG Pisi: suspend configuring
I have used dolphin too, very useful but i'm not lucky, same result. When i try to sleep (suspend to ram) by k menu it seem the pc to do noting. It is a kde, plasma or ACPI problem? or other problem? # pm-suspend works great. |
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Assistance / Configuring Pardus / [Solved] Pardus 2011.1 ACPI problem in plasma/kde
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on: July 29, 2011, 22:06:13 PM
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I have now installed pardus 2011,1 and after one or two hour of usage i have tried to freeze to ram my pc (sleep) by the K menu: nothing success. Then i tried to shutdown the pc by the k menu: nothing. But after one minute the screen goes to dark and the windows with the 30 secs shutdown choice appear.
The shutdown is slow but works and the pc goes off.
In the past i have used P2011 and i had similar problem.
I suppose the problem is ACPI bu if i try # halt / pm-suspend / pm-hibernate in P2011 it works very well.
The problem is plasma? is KDE?
Where i can to see to find the problem? which log file?
TY and sorry for my english.
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Assistance / Configuring Pardus / Re: Sleep, hybernate pardus 2011
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on: July 24, 2011, 20:01:58 PM
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I have reinstall pardus 2011 and it works fine, i have upgrade the only firefox (pisi up firefox), reboot and plasma gone in Error. The screen was black and i only view the windows of kde.
I reinstall pardus 2011 another time with the old firefox, i can't upgrade my systm.
There was some file conflict during upgrade of firefox and some files were not removed, it is important?
Add: pisi tell me "Not removing conflicted file : /usr/share/locale/en_US/entry.desktop" and other four or five "not removing" about kde files.
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Assistance / Configuring Pardus / Sleep, hybernate pardus 2011
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on: July 24, 2011, 00:33:16 AM
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I have P2011 and works fine but sleep the pc has a bug. When the pc is booted the desktop appear and i can sleeped the pc by the K-menu, if i try many time to sleep the pc at some time it fails and the pc don't sleep. When the sleep in the K-menu fails i can used the command #pm-suspend and it works. I suppose there is a log file in /var/log where i can found info, can you help me? Add: it is my /var/log/messages http://www.kensan.it/tmp/messages.txtAdd2: i have several problem with my desktop, maybe it is not only a sleep problem, also dolphin dont works well, paste clipboard into desktop dont works well. Can i resinstall KDE? or plasma? |
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Assistance / Hardware / Floppy
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on: July 17, 2011, 16:59:15 PM
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Hi, i have a floppy drive and it is not acknowledged in Dolphin. I have added the module floppy in my /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6 and I'm in floppy group. Otherwise #mount /dev/fd0 /media/floppy works, #umount /dev/fd0 works too. How i can have the entry "floppy" in Dolphin? Tanks in advance. |
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