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61  Assistance / Pardus for beginners / Re: Deleting stuff in Pisi on: November 09, 2011, 10:02:51 AM
kwrite belongs to kdebase and kate belongs to kdesdk.
You are right in that it is inadvisable to remove kdebase (and probably kdesdk too, but that depends on your needs).

My only needs, trixon, are to get rid of unused programs and files that will never be used. I prefer gedit to the kde editors.
62  Assistance / Pardus for beginners / Re: Deleting stuff in Pisi on: November 09, 2011, 09:52:38 AM
You can try to remove them from terminal with

Code:
pisi remove package-name

but I donĀ“t know how smart that is.I think these packages are part of KDE so maybe removing them you will remove other packages.Someone else probably know that better then me.Read this because you will need it in future.
Thanks zvacet but I already tried that and  got the message they did not exist. So I opened up Dolphin and sent them to the trash bin. Probably the wrong thing to do as they are still in the menu and that way would not remove the dependencies
63  Assistance / Pardus for beginners / Re: Pardus not closing down properly and needing a hard switchoff on: November 09, 2011, 07:22:45 AM

Then we can rule out usb hangups.............

Oooooh yeah multi boot , forgot about that  , that means no splash screen ( that is what I meant by initial screen , giving you options to alter your booting temporarily ).
and your kernel boot command is almost as simple as mine .

Before we go to that , I see from another forum , that kde4 desktop effects may cause a problem.
One users solution was to go to kde start > settings> desktop effects and remove the tick mark from the " enable desktop effects switch".
A simple thing to try first.

anglophony


But I'm partial to desktop effects. Grin However I did disable them but it had no effect. So I get to keep my eye-candy.




64  Assistance / Pardus for beginners / SOLVED - Deleting stuff in Pisi on: November 09, 2011, 07:08:40 AM
I want to delete Kwrite and Kate but when I bring them up in Pisi I find  only developer files and no actual executables. I imagine it would be inadvisable to delete these files so what next?
65  Assistance / Pardus for beginners / Re: SOLVED - Is there a file manager I can use as root? on: November 09, 2011, 00:09:13 AM
Since your opening the GUI of dolphin, you:
Code:
Alt + F2
and at top of display you will see the run dialog field.  Enter
Code:
kdesu dolphin
hit enter
and you will be asked for your root password.  
You can also open konqueror this way, too.  I make sure to close / exit from the file manager after I am through tinkering.

If I want to edit just a file I open the run dialog and:
kdesu kwrite file name and path I want to edit as root

Lisa Marie


That's what I was looking for Lisa. I knew there was a way of using it as root but had completely forgotten it. Dolphin is my favourite file manager so - you've made my day.

Many thanks

Lisa Marie
66  Assistance / Pardus for beginners / Re: SOLVED - Is there a file manager I can use as root? on: November 09, 2011, 00:04:15 AM
Hi, I just use kwrite or Kate for system editing , called from the command line as root.
But Owiknowi is correct , sure is the fastest way to screw up the system if your not careful  Grin Grin Grin




Edit: My favorite filemanager is midnight commander

Thanks Anglophony but Krusader seems to fill the bill.
67  Assistance / Pardus for beginners / Re: Pardus not closing down properly and needing a hard switchoff on: November 08, 2011, 12:26:31 PM

I tend to agree ,Maurice.

Couple of other things , some usb devices (e.g. external hard drives , not keyboards or mice ) have caused a ( older ) system to hang  or to not boot , something to see to ( remove them temporarily ) .
As I mentioned , mine was a hard to install thing, so I disabled ( in software ) a couple of things , not force , just removed them from the kernel boot.My boot looks like this now:  " kernel /boot/kernel-2.6.37.6 root=/dev/mapper/VolGroup-lv_root resume=/dev/mapper/VolGroup-lv_swap ".

You may want to try this at the inital boot screen in the parameters line, it'll restore itself in the next boot.

I don't have any external devices attached.

I'm not sure of what you mean?
Are you suggesting that in /boot/grub/menu.lst I replace my

" kernel /boot/kernel-2.6.37.6 root=UUID=5a825bf0-8d11-4797-91af-f4a32cf16ea4 splash quiet blacklist=nouveau "
with your
" kernel /boot/kernel-2.6.37.6 root=/dev/mapper/VolGroup-lv_root resume=/dev/mapper/VolGroup-lv_swap "

and try that? And what is the initial boot screen? 
Thanks
68  Assistance / Pardus for beginners / Re: SOLVED - Is there a file manager I can use as root? on: November 08, 2011, 10:15:27 AM

usual one can/may only edit system files as root, and that's a pretty sensible protection for your system.
if you just want to get to know some system files, just copy them to your desktop and change the read/write properties. but there's not much point doing that, imho.

if you want to try different setting in system files, just to see what happens, you could consider a separate test installation on another partition?

btw. kongueror is by default installed in pardus 2011.x, just go to the kick off menu / internet / konqueror (webbrowser). you even can set it as your default file browser (see attachment).

Yes, I had looked at Konqueror as a file manager but can't see how or where to configure it to allow root privileges.
69  Assistance / Pardus for beginners / Re: Is there a file manager I can use as root? on: November 08, 2011, 09:40:42 AM
Many thanks Willy, just what I wanted.

Maurice
70  Assistance / Pardus for beginners / SOLVED - Is there a file manager I can use as root? on: November 08, 2011, 06:24:36 AM
Dolphin won't allow me to save anything unless as root, and the repos don't have Konqueror as a superuser. So how do I edit system files?
71  Assistance / Pardus for beginners / Re: Pardus not closing down properly and needing a hard switchoff on: November 08, 2011, 05:09:41 AM
Ok then Maurice, assuming you have not altered KDE  ,it's likely ok , ( at least mine is , and mine was a difficult install ).
Can you do a dmesg , while in konsole, just see if there are any lines that have the word " error " in them.....................

No error lines but one can't line Grin

"can't assign mem pref"

Doesn't seem very significant.
72  Assistance / Pardus for beginners / Re: Pardus not closing down properly and needing a hard switchoff on: November 08, 2011, 02:29:45 AM
This may be a silly question, but desktop are you using, sometimes the configuration needs to be tweeked.

I know you're likely to be using KDE , but lets be sure...

Yes I'm using KDE.
73  Assistance / Pardus for beginners / Re: Pardus not closing down properly and needing a hard switchoff on: November 08, 2011, 02:25:29 AM
Hi Maurice,
Your hardware is a bit  newer than mine, as I'm using a socket 939 athlon motherboard with nVidia GeForce 8500 GT card.  I had to read up on your CPU, and if it is the Q6600? (you wrote 06600) then it sounds impressive and still has a strong following these many years later.  

I did some searches and didn't come up with anything, either, accept to do as atolboo suggested, which you tried.  What seems stranger is that the command SW gave to shutdown computer through command line did not work for you.
Did you install any proprietary driver during the install of Pardus?  
You could check for error messages in terminal output of dmesg, or look at /var/log/kdm.log or your home's xsession errors.  

Code:
cat /var/run/kdm.pid
should show a pid number.
Lisa Marie
P.S.  Also, you said it freezes.  Some of us have had problems with very slow shutdown while using VPN or dial up connection where it would take my computer up to 4 minutes to finally shutdown.  No problems on startup.  Did you try waiting for several minutes to see what it does?  Several=oh, about seven minutes, just to be sure.  Grin


Thanks for the trouble you have taken Lisa Marie.

Yes, Q6600 is correct.

Proprietary drivers - yes, where Pardus gave the option of these during installation I said OK.

Checking for error messages - /var/log/kdm.log gave no permission even though I used root. Dmesg gave me a huge readout most of which meant nothing to me. Grin

PID gave 641 which also means nothing.

I don't use VPN and I have a wifi connection and, although patience is not a virtue of mine, I did give it 8 minutes but it wouldn't go away.
74  Assistance / Pardus for beginners / Re: Pardus not closing down properly and needing a hard switchoff on: November 07, 2011, 01:14:26 AM
G'day

OT= Off Topic


DUH Roll Eyes
75  Assistance / Pardus for beginners / Re: Pardus not closing down properly and needing a hard switchoff on: November 07, 2011, 00:38:34 AM
Sorry for OT!

When You shut down Computers by hard switch off then reading head of HDD is not in protected parking position so every movement and shock will hurt the reading head and of course the surface of the magnetic disk. This could be the reason for the HDD failures (especially on Notebooks because usually You move and shake them a lot), but not the power off itself.  Wink

Thanks for that SW - good enough reason to avoid the hard switch-off. What is OT?
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