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1  General / Wish list / Re: What I want on: September 15, 2012, 12:01:53 PM
Using Opera 11.64 on VL-7, PMs are broken again, no matter whether "safe copy" is set or not, JS is on or not, Ghostery is enabled or disabled - it says the server closed the connection as soon as I hit Send.

Anyway, here is the missing link:

Have fun! Smiley
2  General / Wish list / Re: What I want on: September 12, 2012, 09:06:11 AM
I know... When I noticed that Opera 12.0 (with several tabs open and being set to "Work Offline" before closing it) asks me for EVERY tab whether I want to go online, I decided that I will never update it anymore. Maybe I will switch to firefox later on.

And I have the same behavior as Anglo. Or I had - NOW it works, regardless of the setting of "save a copy to my outbox" - a feature that I also see properly working for the first time.

Many thanks for fixing it to whoever did it!

UPDATE: I had JavaScript turned off. When I turned it on, I got the same problem as before - but it's not reliable anymore, a few trials later it workes with JS on and a copy in my outbox. So it's not yet perfect but much better already.
All this with Opera 11.64.
3  General / Wish list / Re: What I want on: September 11, 2012, 21:03:02 PM
I have the same problem with Opera 11.64.
4  General / The Pub / Re: COMICS on: September 01, 2012, 02:02:16 AM
"Not Invented Here"


(I'd suggest to start at the beginning: http://notinventedhe.re/on/2009-9-21 )

5  General / The Pub / Re: Excuses on: September 01, 2012, 01:53:37 AM
I just discovered that I cannot send a PM to you here, neither with Opera nor with Firefox.

And just in case you did not get my last one, and for everybody else who is interested in web comics about computing:

see here

Have fun!

6  Assistance / Download/Repos / Re: Repos for 2011 on: August 11, 2012, 23:34:53 PM
Valgrind - that reminds me.

Valgrind is a set of debugging/profiling tools. A program that is meant for all-day use should really not have a dependency to valgrind. Such a dependency should only exist while debugging. I tell you, there is something out of order!

.........  I'll investigate further...
Thanks for this info and help to get the puzzle solved Wink
Thanks, but so far we got the most useful info from Lisa Smiley

As far as I can tell now, www.pardus.org and the official repositories are reachable again, even with my normal name server in place.

http://www.pardus-wiki.org/ is reachable too. BUT! It does not deliver any page to me, just a weird progress bar.

Meanwhile I thought: Would it be possible that someone forgot to renew the addresses that were about to expire yesterday?
But the fact that the Wiki does not answer even though it is reachable looks like a purposeful difficulty to me.
I WANT to believe that all this is/was not some kind of mean trickery against foreigners... But... I don't know.

And I still cannot provide a reasonable explanation about how the DNS issue could happen.

7  Assistance / Download/Repos / Re: Repos for 2011 on: August 11, 2012, 16:18:45 PM
Is there someone to ask at .tr?
Yesterday (before chatting) I asked in #pardus about it and they obviously had no problem and did not know what I was talking about. At that time I did not know how to interpret that info - I began to suspect a DNS problem but had no idea yet about details and was far from a solution.

And meanwhile I know from a whois-service that the address range  ' -' belongs to TUBITAK, in Ankara. This means that Lisa's name servers are located in TR.

So using a nameserver from TR enables you to access the Pardus addresses. The rest of the world seems to have lost the connection. This makes a little more sense to me, but it looks like TR wants to make it difficult for foreigners. And it does not fit to the promise that support for a forum could be provided - even if a forum would set up on a Turkish server, I now understand that we could not trust the forum to stay reachable from anywhere in the world.  

And I still have no idea how this could happen. But then again, my knowledge about DNS is limited.  I'll investigate further...
8  Assistance / Download/Repos / Re: Repos for 2011 on: August 11, 2012, 00:52:02 AM
Lisa, you nailed it.  Kiss

With your name server entries, I get contact, too  Cheesy

Edit: But WHY so suddenly.... Anyway, I need some sleep.
9  Assistance / Download/Repos / Re: Repos for 2011 on: August 10, 2012, 22:37:54 PM
$ wget http://packages.pardus.org.tr/pardus/2011/stable/x86_64//pisi-index.xml.xz
--2012-08-10 20:37:14--  http://packages.pardus.org.tr/pardus/2011/stable/x86_64//pisi-index.xml.xz
Resolving packages.pardus.org.tr (packages.pardus.org.tr)... failed: Temporary failure in name resolution.
wget: unable to resolve host address "packages.pardus.org.tr"


... Lisa?
Sorry, atolboo's question that was meant for Lisa anyway.
10  Assistance / Download/Repos / Re: Repos for 2011 on: August 10, 2012, 22:22:11 PM
Just tried...

http://paketler.pardus-linux.org/pardus/2012/testing is reachable. That should be the Anka repository.

But http://packages.pardus.org.tr/pardus/2011.2/stable/x86_64 and the whole *.pardus.org.tr seems to have vanished from the world.


11  General / The Pub / Re: A very strange affair indeed............. on: July 08, 2012, 12:29:03 PM
Coming back to our issue: I don't like it when people (real humans?) say:
#1 - Oh, please, I don't want my real name be known. Just let me vote through a cyber-nickname.
#2 - And, please, I can't give away my real address.

Above cowardice is unacceptable to me. Trust, courage, faith is all.
Cyber-identities is no decisioning-power.
I asked whether I needed to do that for the membership. Well, I have issues with these two points and really like to avoid them. Call it paranoia.

I would perhaps drop #1 for a very good reason. About like Anglo. Unless I also need to drop #2.

I would NEVER drop #2. That's why I also will never order something from amazon or the like. Call me crazy or cowardly. It's not going to happen. If this is a requirement, I cannot become a member of whatever. If someone tries to find out my real address and connect it to my real name, I will vanish as soon as  I notice it. No compromise.

There are no enemies at Worldforum I am sure.

Even if there may be "agents", I don't care. Agents, enemies are all around the world. This is life. You have to have faith Smiley
You must be aware that everybody in the world, including criminals, spammers, scammers and all kinds of national agencies and companies including MS are able to read all posts within this forum without being a member. And I really have no faith against all of them. Actually, I was a bit astonished that you mentioned your email address openly in a forum post, not even in a disguised way, that's something I would never do, because Spammers and scammers use "robots" to harvest email addresses from everywhere in the internet. But that's your way to do it, so I'm not going to complain about it. 
12  General / General topics / Re: Remind me, why do I use Pardus? on: July 02, 2012, 09:13:45 AM
(Germans fighting the Dutch, .....).
This ^^^ is 100% nonsense Wink
Thank you Smiley I was wondering what Dirse could mean. Smiley
As far as as I noticed, nobody was fighting anybody else or any nationality.
Disagreeing with a certain opinion should be OK as long as it's not impolite and I did not notice anything offending in recent posts. 
13  Pardus Worldforum Meeting / Meeting report / Re: RESULTS , MEETING JUNE 27 , 2012 on: June 30, 2012, 12:07:13 PM
I freely admit that I'm excited and at least somewhat disoriented. (And for sure young in terms of Pardus time, too.)
So, cheers for the Old Wolves!

I insist we should have our ideas (presentations to the meeting) posted prior to the meeting. For that we need someone (richdb or Anglo or jasperodus) create a forum sub-heading. There we can pre-post our presentations.
Good idea! Technical ideas included? Smiley

... I beg you all to urgently refer me to a Pardus-user lawyer in Europe, or elsewhere on this planet (except Turkey).

We cannot!
Remember that I asked "who knows a lawyer?" during the meeting and only got no answers and a negative one?

Giving you a contact to a lawyer in Europe is (right now, by ourself) not possible. Try to prove me wrong, anybody. Until that happens (which I doubt), we need to act as if it's a matter of fact.

What about the FSF or any other international Linux organization that could help us with the next step and maybe recommend a lawyer to us - has anybody had any experience with them, has anybody ever contacted any such organization?

I have not the slightest experience in this area and no knowledge at all about legal things, but if nobody has any better, and nobody else (including you, Dirse) wants to contact the FSF, I could do try to do it, as good as anybody next door who has no clue about what he's talking about.

Otherwise we must go on without a lawyer in Europe. (Not to speak of a lawyer who uses Linux, or even Pardus.)
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