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1  General / Tips and tricks / Re: Replacement for Pardus: Manjaro on: October 16, 2012, 13:01:02 PM
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But I do not really get your point why you should not stick to downloading the current stable 12.2 versions and update from there? Is there something specific you are waitng for in a newer version?
I am trying to avoid having to run an update that might be 500 MB or more.

Ah I see  Grin
(they should stop maing newer and newer and newer, once installed it is already outdated....drives one crazy  Grin Grin Grin )

But having used the 12.2 installation DVD I do not have the impression that I had to update 500MB afterwards (however I admit sometimes it is hard to remember what (amount of packages) was updated once you start an update)
2  General / Tips and tricks / Re: Replacement for Pardus: Manjaro on: October 16, 2012, 12:15:32 PM
I guess 12.2 version is frozen after final releases came out (end of August / begin of September 2012) and are ready for download at the OpenSUSE website URL I already posted, they are now developing OpenSUSE 12.3 and milestone0 testing versions are here:

http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/12.3-Milestone0/iso/

But I do not really get your point why you should not stick to downloading the current stable 12.2 versions and update from there? Is there something specific you are waitng for in a newer version?
3  General / Tips and tricks / Re: Replacement for Pardus: Manjaro on: October 16, 2012, 11:53:28 AM
@Michiel
12.2 was released at the beginning of September.  There should be a rather large update to the original ISO after installation.  I was hoping to avoid this by getting a current version of the ISO if available.  My interest is in the KDE Live CD/DVD.

Don' t know, I suppose they have just the newest ISO images available as current download?
Is there a special reason that you assume different 12.2 ISO versions and is there as far as you know a way to test and find out which version(s) you have?
4  General / Tips and tricks / Re: Replacement for Pardus: Manjaro on: October 16, 2012, 11:12:16 AM
@Michiel
Is there a updated ISO available for KDE 12.2?

I do not understand your question, what do you mean exactly?

I have downloaded the entire 12.2 OpenSUSE DVD, installed that one and the  updated (which did not involve too many new packages because 12.2 wa quite recently released)

http://software.opensuse.org/122/nl (I took the 64-bt version)

And my system now uses KDE 4.8.5 (" release 2" ) according to KInfocenter if that is what your are asking?
5  General / Tips and tricks / Re: Replacement for Pardus: Manjaro on: October 16, 2012, 09:42:18 AM
After lots of reflection I have decided to come back to the single other distro (next to Pardus) where I have come back to before: Open SUSE 12.2 (KDE).

Will keep visiting this worldforum of course to see what happens (or not).

Maybe you should start a thread for OpenSUSE, to describe its advantages & disadvantages.

Like you I continue to follow this forum, but I'm not really hopeful.

OpenSUSE 12.2 install was piece of cake in <20 minutes.
Have adjusted the repositories somewhat (am trying Tumbleweed rolling release concept).
Have used it switching between KDE, XFCE and LXDE (installed all three of them), but KDE is still my main desktop environment.
So far no big issues, but only a few minor KDE desktop related (I guess) issues, e.g. when I tried to change the wallpaper the first time, my entire desktop went blank (?) and had to puzzle a bit to restore it, also the taskbar had to be rearranegd after that, but the next try, changing to the same wallpaper all went well just as it should). Furthermore the time (although set to correct time zone) had to be readjusted a couple of times, but it may just be that I had set something wrong there. These two things (correct time, and one time loss of desktop upon first time trying to change wallpaper) are the only problems I encountered so far, I must admit I had not expected that one with the wallpaper, should not happen to a big distro such as OpenSUSE, I have never encountered a wallpaper change desktop loss issue in my Pardus life  Cheesy

In turn my self quite curious how things are going with Manjaro: are you still using it and what are your expierences so far?
6  General / Tips and tricks / Re: Replacement for Pardus: Manjaro on: October 14, 2012, 21:07:33 PM
Although I like the efforts made by Manjaro.... today ...is the day...that I waved Pardus goodbye after 4, perhaps even 5 memorable and very enjoyable years having used Pardus as my one and only operating system.

After lots of reflection I have decided to come back to the single other distro (next to Pardus) where I have come back to before: Open SUSE 12.2 (KDE).

Will keep visiting this worldforum of course to see what happens (or not).
7  General / Tips and tricks / Re: Replacement for Pardus: Manjaro on: October 07, 2012, 18:26:33 PM
Like the idea, and in general XFCE is gaining popularity as DE, e.g. also Debian moved to XFCE as primary DE.
Although Arch seems quite popular as far as I know (just ike Pardus  Grin) it uses its own package system, would you consider that as a pro or a con?
8  General / As seen on the internet / Re: A new distro: Debian under another name and brand on: September 16, 2012, 20:37:48 PM
Because SolusOS is now based on Debian. But that gives lot of troubles, need lot of fixing, etc. So that is why the creator of SolusOS is looking for something different. And that is PISI. And b.t.w. he also work for LinuxMint before, so he really got knowledge. And then all we have todo is building packages, so both can use them. SolusOS and Anka.

OK, makes sense (although I used to think that .deb packages do not give as much trouble as suggested here), it IS a very interesting development. However I am a bit reluctant as SolusOS concerns because so much seems to be dependent on just one excellent person? Or is that a statement you regard as too simplifed?
9  General / Tips and tricks / Re: Replacement for Pardus: Mageia on: September 16, 2012, 16:55:31 PM
Nothing is like pardus.

That's for sure  Wink
10  General / As seen on the internet / Re: A new distro: Debian under another name and brand on: September 16, 2012, 14:39:24 PM
Why not stick to deb. packages?
(rpms not always compatible between distro's, and pisi...well the pro is the concept but the con is the lack of packages as compared to deb. packages)
11  General / Tips and tricks / Re: Replacement for Pardus: Mageia on: September 16, 2012, 12:13:13 PM
about mageia:
- mind-closed team
- it is only an updated mandriva 2010.2 with no significant added value (no beautiful artwork, no rolling release, ecc...)
- the international forum is in the hands of 3 or 4 people, and if not think as their most often they respond poorly

about pclinuxos:
- small team but they love what they do, and do so with the few resources available
- more added value to mandriva instead of mageia (not beautiful artwork but it's rolling relase, they working hard on their packages)
- the forum is very friendly (texstar, the boss, is a true companion)


OK thanks for adding those aspects, although sad to say/notice that at this moment your first and third remark regarding Mageia to some extent hold true for Pardus itself too  Sad What and what is not the current Pardus developemntal team and how big or small it is is absolutely totally unclear for people outside the core people, and the friendly and dynamic atmosphere in this forum has gone months ago....the last half year from the outside, for people not directly involved, Pardus is on a dead track.

I have used PCLinuxOS before, and I did like that one, quite fast and without complications running dostro, but..as you state..also there a rather small developers team.

I totally agree with

I don't think it's always possible to quantify what makes a distribution special.

Before we start any flame wars let's remember that although it is reasonable to assume that everyone here found/finds Pardus to be a solution to their needs,  we may well have liked different aspects of it and hence will find that our most comfortable alternative places are different. By all means chip in with your favourites but remember it's only personal preferences not an absolute "this is where we should all go".
12  General / Tips and tricks / Re: Replacement for Pardus: Mageia on: September 15, 2012, 16:52:11 PM
Everything but not mageia, please. Pclinuxos is better than mageia!

because...?
13  General / As seen on the internet / Re: A new distro: Debian under another name and brand on: September 12, 2012, 12:57:08 PM
Thanks, clear and..time to say goodbye  Sad
14  General / General topics / Re: Update Worldforum on: May 25, 2012, 20:22:08 PM
Huuu... huu.... too much honour really.

I did NOT pay for this website, Willem Gielen, the founder, still does, credits to him for that.
Also I did not maintain an entire website.
However I did moderate the dutch forum and the worldforum and was quite busy with managing new registrations for reasons as mentioned earlier. Apart from that there was little moderating because this community behaves itself in an excellent way, just great and a very nice atmosphere to be part of.

So I politely accept your "thank you's" just for the part I was involved in, and I do appreciate your kind comments, that feels good!

Keep up the good work together!
15  General / General topics / Re: Update Worldforum on: May 23, 2012, 21:50:05 PM
Following some email contact between me (Michiel), the founder and current holder (and paying person) of this domain Willem Gielen and Richard (richdb) I expect Richard to take over the job of moderating and managing/maintaining this community website from me shortly, having done this for a couple of years but talking for myself no longer being able to spend the amount of time in managing the forum that is actually needed in these tense days concerning the Pardus community and the future of Pardus and it's corresponding quick developments. Especially the Worldforum is a place of particular importance with regard to these developments.

It's been my pleasure to have maintained this site/forum for some years, but also my relief that a really Pardus-enthusiastic person like Richard wants to take over this job so that I can step back now.

I wish Richard good luck and once more want to emphasize that I really appreciate his offer to take over,

Keep the Pardus spirit alive..!

Thank you,

Michiel
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