Ah I see 
(they should stop maing newer and newer and newer, once installed it is already outdated....drives one crazy  )

But having used the 12.2 installation DVD I do not have the impression that I had to update 500MB afterwards (however I admit sometimes it is hard to remember what (amount of packages) was updated once you start an update)

I guess 12.2 version is frozen after final releases came out (end of August / begin of September 2012) and are ready for download at the OpenSUSE website URL I already posted, they are now developing OpenSUSE 12.3 and milestone0 testing versions are here:

http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/12.3-Milestone0/iso/

But I do not really get your point why you should not stick to downloading the current stable 12.2 versions and update from there? Is there something specific you are waitng for in a newer version?

Don' t know, I suppose they have just the newest ISO images available as current download?
Is there a special reason that you assume different 12.2 ISO versions and is there as far as you know a way to test and find out which version(s) you have?

I do not understand your question, what do you mean exactly?

I have downloaded the entire 12.2 OpenSUSE DVD, installed that one and the  updated (which did not involve too many new packages because 12.2 wa quite recently released)

http://software.opensuse.org/122/nl (I took the 64-bt version)

And my system now uses KDE 4.8.5 (" release 2" ) according to KInfocenter if that is what your are asking?

OpenSUSE 12.2 install was piece of cake in <20 minutes.
Have adjusted the repositories somewhat (am trying Tumbleweed rolling release concept).
Have used it switching between KDE, XFCE and LXDE (installed all three of them), but KDE is still my main desktop environment.
So far no big issues, but only a few minor KDE desktop related (I guess) issues, e.g. when I tried to change the wallpaper the first time, my entire desktop went blank (?) and had to puzzle a bit to restore it, also the taskbar had to be rearranegd after that, but the next try, changing to the same wallpaper all went well just as it should). Furthermore the time (although set to correct time zone) had to be readjusted a couple of times, but it may just be that I had set something wrong there. These two things (correct time, and one time loss of desktop upon first time trying to change wallpaper) are the only problems I encountered so far, I must admit I had not expected that one with the wallpaper, should not happen to a big distro such as OpenSUSE, I have never encountered a wallpaper change desktop loss issue in my Pardus life  

In turn my self quite curious how things are going with Manjaro: are you still using it and what are your expierences so far?

Although I like the efforts made by Manjaro.... today ...is the day...that I waved Pardus goodbye after 4, perhaps even 5 memorable and very enjoyable years having used Pardus as my one and only operating system.

After lots of reflection I have decided to come back to the single other distro (next to Pardus) where I have come back to before: Open SUSE 12.2 (KDE).

Will keep visiting this worldforum of course to see what happens (or not).

Like the idea, and in general XFCE is gaining popularity as DE, e.g. also Debian moved to XFCE as primary DE.
Although Arch seems quite popular as far as I know (just ike Pardus  ) it uses its own package system, would you consider that as a pro or a con?

OK, makes sense (although I used to think that .deb packages do not give as much trouble as suggested here), it IS a very interesting development. However I am a bit reluctant as SolusOS concerns because so much seems to be dependent on just one excellent person? Or is that a statement you regard as too simplifed?

That's for sure 

Why not stick to deb. packages?
(rpms not always compatible between distro's, and pisi...well the pro is the concept but the con is the lack of packages as compared to deb. packages)

OK thanks for adding those aspects, although sad to say/notice that at this moment your first and third remark regarding Mageia to some extent hold true for Pardus itself too   What and what is not the current Pardus developemntal team and how big or small it is is absolutely totally unclear for people outside the core people, and the friendly and dynamic atmosphere in this forum has gone months ago....the last half year from the outside, for people not directly involved, Pardus is on a dead track.

I have used PCLinuxOS before, and I did like that one, quite fast and without complications running dostro, but..as you state..also there a rather small developers team.

I totally agree with

because...?

Thanks, clear and..time to say goodbye 

I am sorry: too easy IMO.... (one does not want to be in a waiting room like wainting for Ms Windows 2012 or something to happen, one wants to be part of something...)

my point regarding this respect refers to Pardus so far (from the beginning, not only this very moment), there has really been almost NO investment (from the core-development side, lots of enthusiastic users abroad have give it a try so far, but the bridge is still lacking) in building a wider community at all; still waiting for that day, and as long as I have not replaced Pardus on  my system I am still in for a surprise for the better from the Turkish side.

it is not only about developing it is also about sharing (and ultimately within ones capabilities co-creating)...! IMO a heavily neglected part of the job so far as Pardus development concerns (not just now)....

obviously the spirit of Pardus has gone, not only the project itself is a misty phenomenon nowadays, but also the always friendly and helpfull atmosphere in these forums has suddenly disappeared which is a pity.   

Personally I will be leaving as well. As Pardus is such a solid distro I am still using it, but I will not install a newer version and probably also change to Mageia, this is just not going to work. Somehow the people in Tutkey who do so well on preparing such a geat distro manage to cut down every enthusiastic attempt of international users to make the best of it and spread it to a wider audience, obviously it is just not meant to be. Each and every time we just have to wait what news comes from Turrkey, and despite repeated request there also have never stepped forward a number of people bridging the gap by tranlstaing all relevant news from Turkish to english or German.

As for this specific thread:

Like in any forum it is the responsibility of all forum members to create an atmosphere with respect for each other. However I guess the subject of this thread is quite a sensitive one and not anyone likes to speculate on distro's other then Pardus whilst others are still working hard to keep Pardus alive.

Perhaps it is better to focus on Pardus here and if you (like me) are slowly waving Pardus goodbye not to start discussions about aother distro's here but just decide for yourself and see who you meet in forums elsewhere wherever you end up.

The discussion here is too fierce in my opinion, and that's the result of conflicting preferences rather then of single person(s), let's cool down here and leave this topic for the moment.