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16  Assistance / Pardus Project / Re: A Pardus fork? on: January 29, 2012, 15:50:08 PM
They want us to wait until the end of March to do anything... Can't even imagine...

+1 this ship is going down but the captain states it's ok to stay on board for a while....we have seen that before IRL recently...

Personally I am not sure if I will stick to Pardus, also in the form of a fork, the fundaments are much weaker all of a sudden, where one of the advantages of Pardus was the strong support in Turkey.

The downside for Pardus remains the PISI package format and the language barrier. Technically there may be nothing wrong with PISI packages, but life would be quite easier and the community quite bigger when either DEB or RPM packages would be chosen as default.

Like some other guys here, I will keep using 2011.2 for the time being (NOTE I have been using Pardus as my SOLE OS at home for 4 years now, I do not quit easily, but I am planning to do so), but I am not sure I will be using Pardus thereafter in the near future. It is a pity that is for sure.
17  General / General topics / Re: Pardus End of Life on: January 18, 2012, 15:07:11 PM
About full media support I think Pardus and Linux Mint are the best. Smiley

I recently added Kororaa (the "Linux Mint" from Fedora so to say) to this shortlist, Pardus being #1
18  Assistance / Software / Re: Adobe Air on: January 02, 2012, 23:00:56 PM
and in addition Anıl Özbek wrote:

"You can also try to download and run following script. It was written by +İsa Mert Gürbüz


I didn't test yet but it probably works:

#Adobe Air yükleme betiği - İsa Mert Gürbüz

mkdir $ADIR
chmod 755 $ADIR
cd $ADIR

wget http://airdownload.adobe.com/air/lin/download/latest/AdobeAIRSDK.tbz2

tar jxvf AdobeAIRSDK.tbz2

chmod +x "/opt/air-sdk/bin/adl"
chmod 755 $ADIR

rm -rf "/opt/air-sdk/AdobeAIRSDK.tbz2"
ln -s "/opt/air-sdk/bin/adl" "/usr/bin/air"
19  Assistance / Software / Re: Adobe Air on: January 02, 2012, 22:49:54 PM
Although Adobe AIR is no longer maintained, there are some previous versions still available for download if you need Adobe AIR for installing an application on Pardus.

I stumbled upon a previous blogpost in turkish (of course  Grin ) on how to install Adobe AIR in Pardus, then I found the author on Google+ and asked him if he was able to and willing to translate that howto in english.

Here is his reply, for any of you who might need Adobe AIR although discontinued by Adobe itself:

Many thanks to the author, Anıl Özbek !


Adobe Air on Pardus

Hi all Pardusers,

This is a shortened translation of Pardusta Adobe Air ve Tweetdeck Çalıştırmak (Running Adobe AIR and Tweetdeck on Pardus) [1]. I wrote this document because some Pardus users need (and ask from me) something like that. Currently I don't use Adobe AIR so I can't help more. It has been almost four years [2].

Let's start:

1. First we need to install Adobe AIR SDK: http://airdownload.adobe.com/air/lin/download/latest/AdobeAIRSDK.tbz2

2. Now create a directory that named air-sdk.

2.5. Copy the archive file to this folder.

3. Extract the downloaded archive to air-sdk directory via context menu.

4. Open Dolphin with authorized user rights via kdesu dolphin command.

5. Copy air-sdk directory to /opt

6. Give executable file permissions to /opt/air-sdk/bin/adl via chmod +x /opt/air-sdk/bin/adl command or context menu. You can skip this step if these rights are already given.

7. Create a shortcut for future convenience in /usr/bin. For this you can use Dolphin or ln -s /opt/air-sdk/bin/adl /usr/bin/air command.

8. Now test time. Download an Adobe AIR application. For example Tweetdeck: http://www.mediafire.com/?5dblnlg2r2unv7g

9. Extract the *.air file with Ark.

10. Copy tweetdeck directory to /opt/air-sdk

11. And finally we can runnnnnn: air -nodebug /opt/air-sdk/tweetdeck/META-INF/AIR/application.xml /opt/air-sdk/tweetdeck

No proofread, have fun Smiley

Anıl. ( https://plus.google.com/u/0/113435503145887565355/posts )

[1] http://vedatfetah.blogspot.com/2011/12/pardusta-adobe-air-ve-tweetdeck.html
[2] http://anilozbek.blogspot.com/2008/11/pardusta-adobe-air.html

20  General / Wish list / Re: [SOLVED] IDJC / Icecast on: January 01, 2012, 13:38:23 PM
Don't know whtether this might help you but when I start my idjc from Konsole I also get error messages but nevertheless an (at first sight) fully functional GUI from IDJC starting up.

michiel@laptop ~ $ idjc
Could not find a suitable language match - will use en_US
Internet DJ Console Version 0.8.5
Copyright 2005-2011 Stephen Fairchild
Released under the GNU General Public License V2.0

Language translation: en_US
jack client IDs: idjc-mx idjc-sc
Cannot connect to server socket err = No such file or directory
Cannot connect to server socket
Cannot create thread 1 Operation not permitted
Cannot create thread 1 Operation not permitted
Cannot lock down memory area (Cannot allocate memory)
Cannot use real-time scheduling (RR/20)(1: Operation not permitted)
AcquireSelfRealTime error
Cannot lock down memory area (Cannot allocate memory)
JACK ERROR MESSAGE: Cannot use real-time scheduling (RR/15)(1: Operation not permitted)
JACK ERROR MESSAGE: AcquireRealTime error
shout_initialiser: shout_init called
jack error: Cannot lock down memory area (Cannot allocate memory)
jack error: Cannot use real-time scheduling (RR/15)(1: Operation not permitted)
jack error: AcquireRealTime error
started 6 encoders, 6 streamers, 2 recorders
threads initialised
jack sample rate is 48000
Unknown destination port in attempted (dis)connection src_name [idjc-mx:dsp_out_l] dst_name [jamin:in_L]
Unknown destination port in attempted (dis)connection src_name [idjc-mx:dsp_out_r] dst_name [jamin:in_R]
Unknown source port in attempted (dis)connection src_name [jamin:out_L] dst_name [idjc-mx:dsp_in_l]
Unknown source port in attempted (dis)connection src_name [jamin:out_R] dst_name [idjc-mx:dsp_in_r]
activated mic 1
Restoring previous session
Toggle OFF recieved for signal: Listen
Toggle OFF recieved for signal: Listen
stream-mon was toggled ON
Track history text is more than six hours old.  Disregarding.

Can you make any sense of this atolboo?
In my GUI playing MP3 files works just fine, haven't tested streaming.

21  General / Wish list / Re: [SOLVED] IDJC / Icecast on: December 31, 2011, 19:01:13 PM
Hi atolboo, find enclosed in the ZIP all relevant (0.8.5) files (Pardus 2011, 32-bit), as you can see the pspec.xml has already been modifeid according to the instructions given in the bug report (there is a backup of the original pspec.xml present as you will note when extracting the archive).

I guess it is more or less changing the source package to 0.8.7 and pisify again.

Whether the package should be maintained in the user repo (eg Pardususer.de) or official Pardus repo is a bit unclear now (does not really matter to me). It used to be in the official repo in Pardus 2009 but when it is not updated and maintained on a routine base the question arises whether it is not better to be maintained by the user communty.

The instructions from the bug report that I followed once more:
I've written strict dependency of libshout to idjc package, but till the new
libshout package hits the repos, you won't be able to satisfy the dependencies.

open pspec.xml file and remove (replace, I guess, Michiel)          
<Dependency releaseFrom="7">libshout-devel</Dependency>

line with


But make sure libtheora-devel package is installed on your system.
22  General / Wish list / Re: [SOLVED] IDJC / Icecast on: December 31, 2011, 18:06:09 PM
From Bug 18659 Comment 11 - IDJC missing in 2011 repositories
I "and it also has disappeared from svn playground"
The happy news is that I found a copy of the build files in my directory  /home/atolboo/PiSi-build/idjc with date 10 jul 2010 10:02
Build from idjc-0.8.2.tar.gz and the newest version is idjc-0.8.7.tar.gz
Maybe something can be done about this

I have the build files of 0.8.5. so upgrading to 0.8.7 should be quite easy (even for me)
23  General / Wish list / Re: [SOLVED] IDJC / Icecast on: December 31, 2011, 13:45:52 PM
I found this PISI package that I previously created on my laptop, I guess the result of what is mentioned in the posting above.
Perhaps someone could test it to see whether this provides a functioning IDJC package for Pardus 2011?
24  General / Wish list / Re: Kwooty on: December 30, 2011, 20:15:41 PM
uh..atolboo an english or dutch wiki on the ins and outs of how to use PisiDo..will uh do  Grin
25  General / General topics / Re: Pardus End of Life on: December 30, 2011, 16:04:38 PM
This blog, as far as Google Translate enables me to understand it, also confirms that the Pardus Project will continue, however that the exact direction(s) in which it will continue are still unclear. Based on Google Translate I get the impression that rather the Corporate instead of the 2011 version will be discontinued as separate version, but concluding from Google Translations of turkish may be tricky.
There is one reply to this blogposting that also demands a quick briefing and communication by the Project holders what the future plans will be in order to prevent Pardus users leaving Pardus in the meantime because of uncertainty.

26  Assistance / Download/Repos / Re: Repos for 2011 on: December 29, 2011, 18:31:04 PM
Pardus is still alive in Spain  Cheesy


Nuevo Repositorio para Pardus 2011: Repositorio PardusLife!
Posted on 27 diciembre, 2011 by paran0id
Repositorio PardusLife

Sí amigos usuarios de Pardus, me complace en presentar un nuevo repositorio para esta gran distribución Linux.

Y es que en PardusLife no hemos querido ser menos y nos hemos animado a colaborar con este proyecto abriendo nuestro propio repositorio, al margen del oficial y de las otras comunidades.

Disponemos de paquetes para arquitecturas de:

64 bits (x86_64) -> 24 paquetes .pisi

32 bits (i686) -> 13 paquetes

Esperamos tener pronto el repositorio de 32 bits con el mismo número de paquetes que el de 64, así que no te preocupes

Y bueno, sin más rodeos dejo las urls para agregar al gestor de paquetes o por consola:

64 bits:

sudo pisi ar PardusLife http://parduslife-repo.no-ip.org/p2011/x86_64/pisi-index.xml.xz

32 bits:

sudo pisi ar PardusLife http://parduslife-repo.no-ip.org/p2011/i686/pisi-index.xml.xz
27  General / As seen on the internet / Re: Top 5 Ubuntu alternatives. on: December 29, 2011, 15:01:41 PM
maybe good to know: on a hp dv6 there are just two penguins who can deal with that rather complicated notebook thus far:
1. pardus kurumsal 2 (using to write this) and 2011.1 (used for multimedia)
2. mageia 1

not even one of all the 'big fellas' can be installed to a more or less workable state (out of the box that is Wink )

Tried Kororaa? I must admit slowly falling in love with that one (the Linux Mint of Fedora so to say, with cutting edge Fedora repositories, but out-of-the-box working like Mint and Pardus, and without the Turkish language barriere).

I have installed a Kororaa (Fedora 16+) KDE4 system on my testPC and quite easily also LXDE and Gnome3 desktop environments.

It is for the first time since the very early Red Hat days that I return to Fedora/RH.

It is however a very young distro maintained for the most part by a single person named Chris Smart, but smart he is...defintely.

When you Google around there are quite some folks that passed the way along Kubuntu, OpenSuSE and Pardus to finish up with Kororaa.
28  General / As seen on the internet / Developing Android Apps with Eclipse in Pardus on: December 24, 2011, 13:59:52 PM
Use Google Translate for this turkish blog page

29  General / As seen on the internet / Re: Pardus patches used by OpenSuSE 12 KDE3 version on: December 24, 2011, 13:13:46 PM
oh well, that was just a copy and paste of a message on twitter ( a tweet), so forget about the first part with the names
30  General / As seen on the internet / Re: Pardus patches used by OpenSuSE 12 KDE3 version on: December 24, 2011, 12:50:13 PM
It is nice to notice via Twitter that the "big" distro OpenSuSE used some patches for OpenSuSE KDE3 version that were build and provided by the Pardus team, isn't it?
I.e. Pardus actually contributed to linux development cross-distro, just like Fedora develops things that may be implemented in other distro's, a nice phenomenon in the open source community, but it is also nice that a smaller distro like Pardus develops things that are embraced by the big guys like OpenSuSE, a further rewarding of Pardus as a distribution I would guess..!

Why did you put questionmarks atolboo?
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