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31  General / As seen on the internet / Pardus patches used by OpenSuSE 12 KDE3 version on: December 24, 2011, 10:03:38 AM
GizemB Gizem B
\0/ RT @ozinkegliyin: OpenSuSE took our Pardus Corporate 2 patches to their kdebase3 package Smiley
32  General / General topics / Re: Pardus End of Life on: December 21, 2011, 12:33:22 PM
When Pardus stops one only can choose from the very big ones if one does not want to encounter similar phenomenons a couple of years later. There are so many distributions with a relatively small development team, thus the risk of ending up is great.

If this would be the case I guess I would go back to OpenSuSE, since Fedora is more Gnome based and Ubuntu as well and I always felt more confortable with native KDE distro 's but that's just a matter of personal taste.

I always felt Open SuSE and the previous SuSE were too "big" as default install components concern, for a beginner you hardly knew what all these services and servers you could edit in the Preferences settings really meant. However a big advantage is that OpenSuSE like the Buntu's and Fedora have lots of software packages available.

Somehow sad news...this thread...but as it never expanded actively beyond Turkey...it would not fully surprise me at all if Pardus vanishes from the desktop in time..it's a pity

Have you heard about PCLinuxOS? I think, you have. It was made by 1 man. And it is #7 now, so I thinkg it will never die. I don't know how many people are in PCLinuxOS's team now, but it has over 13000 packages (compare to Pardus).
The main problem of Pardus - it has no promotion. And few packages.

Yes I like PCLinuxOS very much but I am afraid it will go down one day when it is too dependent on one or just a few people. PClinux OS recently was the only distro I used next to Pardus, nice and fast distro.
33  General / General topics / Re: Pardus End of Life on: December 21, 2011, 11:03:21 AM
When Pardus stops one only can choose from the very big ones if one does not want to encounter similar phenomenons a couple of years later. There are so many distributions with a relatively small development team, thus the risk of ending up is great.

If this would be the case I guess I would go back to OpenSuSE, since Fedora is more Gnome based and Ubuntu as well and I always felt more confortable with native KDE distro 's but that's just a matter of personal taste.

I always felt Open SuSE and the previous SuSE were too "big" as default install components concern, for a beginner you hardly knew what all these services and servers you could edit in the Preferences settings really meant. However a big advantage is that OpenSuSE like the Buntu's and Fedora have lots of software packages available.

Somehow sad news...this thread...but as it never expanded actively beyond Turkey...it would not fully surprise me at all if Pardus vanishes from the desktop in time..it's a pity
34  General / Introduce yourself / Re: I am back after nearly two years to Pardus on: December 18, 2011, 11:37:27 AM
Also a public welcome back Andreas  Grin

A growing community is much needed for this still very Turkey focused distro.
35  Assistance / Software / Re: Google+ Hangouts: also working in Parduis 2011 on: November 20, 2011, 21:19:41 PM
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Well Pardus official repo will not provide it because it is proprietary software from Google Inc,
Where did you find this information Huh?

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Thanks for this ^^^ info. I didn't look for it before.
After studying Bug 14061, I decided not to try to build it.


I guess I figured that out from the same Bugzilla page after Google Translate

There was a discussion (in turkish) why the bug was considered closed and then it was reopened, and people stated that a possible PISI solution would only be provided in an user repo (unofficially) and not in an official repo because Pardus does not want to get into trouble woth Google Inc.
36  Assistance / Software / Re: Google+ Hangouts: also working in Parduis 2011 on: November 20, 2011, 19:15:59 PM
So far I was a bt disappointed that I needed a Google Voice and Video Chat plugin for Google+ Hangouts to work, and that when trying to install the plugin only RPM and DEB versions for 32 and 64 bit were provided by Google.
I can try to make a PiSi package for this.

and the Firefox browser would not show me a screen at all.
To get more info in this kind of situation, start FF with
Code:
firefox
in konsole.

Second I decided to upgrade my Chromium version
I guess you did this in Package Manager Huh?

I do not know which part did the trick but
It's always advisable to do one action at a time Grin

Well Pardus official repo will not provide it because it is proprietary software from Google Inc, but as long as my mystery is not solved, the question arises whether you should have a separate PISi for Google Voice and Chat plugin at all or whether it is already included in the recent Crhomium/Chrome packages themselves...

When yoo are planning to built a PISI please see also the Bugzilla in which there has been some effort for the 64 bit version.
37  Assistance / Software / Google+ Hangouts: also working in Pardus 2011 on: November 20, 2011, 13:33:53 PM
Wanted to share with you that I just managed to get my first Google+ Hangout ("with extra's") session working on my Pardus 2011 laptop.

So far I was a bt disappointed that I needed a Google Voice and Video Chat plugin for Google+ Hangouts to work, and that when trying to install the plugin only RPM and DEB versions for 32 and 64 bit were provided by Google.

Now what I do not exactly know is WHY I got it to work  Grin

First I had only Chromium and Firefox browsers installed, and I tried to install the plugin by downloading the 32-bit RPM version, converting it with rpm2targz and then installing the tar source file. This delivered a google/talkplugin/ folder in my /opt directory.

However when I then tried to start, both my Chromium browser and Firefox browser did not work no longer, also not after rebooting the system. The chromium browser crashed directly after starting up and the Firefox browser would not show me a screen at all.

Second I decided to upgrade my Chromium version AND to install Chrome package itself (provided by pardususer.de repo).

I do not know which part did the trick but after opening Chrome the Hangout started as it should with mic and webcam support included, and when I then got back to Chromium it worked as well.

I guess either the correct Google Voice and Video plugin came included upon installing Google Chrome itself or updating Chromium or (less probably taking crashing browsers into account) it was due to the manual installation of the plugin in my first step, and it was just a matter of browser VERSION compatibility, I do not know.

Would be nice if some other Pardus users can check what exactly does the trick so that all Pardus users can enjoy using Google+ including the Hangout session functionaity.

I would suggest to NOT install the plugin manually but first only install the latest Chromium or the Google Chrome browser from the user repo) only and see whether it works out-of-the-box.

f not, then the manual plugin installation would still be crucial for things to work.

Let me know!


38  International Pardus Users / Dutch / Re: installeren van software zonder pakketbeheer on: November 02, 2011, 21:40:41 PM
Hallo allemaal,

Misschien is dit een wat rare vraag, maar ben sinds een week overgestapt van Windows. Moet zeggen dat ik erg onder de indruk ben van wat de OS allemaal kan en nog verbaasder dat ik nu pas ben overgestapt! Helaas, moet ik nog wel erg wennen aan de niet kant en klare installatiebestanden.

Op het moment probeer ik een stabiele versie van wine (v. 1.2.3) te installeren op pardus 2011. Alhoewel het pakketbeheer ook een wine versie aanbiedt (v. 1.3.23), is deze laatste genoemde een alpha-versie. Dit houdt concreet in dat ik photoshop niet kan installeren op deze omgeving en moest daar ervaringswijs achter komen....
Nu heb ik een tar.bz2 bestand gedownload van "www.winehq.com". Nu heb ik via konsole geprobeerd het te installeren met de volgende code...

Code:
cd /home/matthijs/Bureaublad/wine-1.2.3/
./tools/wineinstall

Na dit ingetypt te hebben, krijg ik de bijgevoegde afbeelding te zien. Nu, is mijn vraag hoe ik dit kan oplossen en de stabiele versie van Wine toch goed kan installeren. Daarbij heb ik al geprobeerd om met "root" het te installeren, alleen kom ik ook dan een probleem tegen.

Hardstikke bedankt voor alle hulp!


Hoi,

je mist blijkens de output in de Konsole nog enkele programma's om het installatie proces te kunnen uitvoeren (je mist andersgezegd afhankelijkheden)

je kan twee dingen doen:

1) veruit het makkelijkst in dit geval is gewoon de wine te installeren vanuit pakketbeheer, er is gewoon een pardus pisi pakket van wine, en dan wordt alles in een keer goed geïnstalleerd en worden ook automatisch evt benodigde afhankelijkheden mee geïnstalleerd
je kunt zowel grafisch als in de Konsole een pisi pakket installeren, zie ook de Pardus wiki voor uitleg.

2) als je het per se handmatig vanuit de Konsole wil uitvoeren zul je in eider geval de PISI pakketten die je zoal tegen komt als make, gcc, cc e.d. eerst moeten installeren, verder lijkt het er bij de output op dat je al een eerdere installatie van wine hebt gedaan? als je vaker software installeert ofwel via pakketbeheer ofwel via Konsole loop je wel minder tegen ontbrekende afhankelijkheden aan want als die eenmaal bij het installeren van een bepaalde applicatie mee geïnstalleerd zijn dan ontbreken ze niet meer bij een volgende applicatie die dezelfde afhankelijkheden nodig heeft
39  General / General topics / Re: Show off your Desktop on: October 19, 2011, 08:57:39 AM
I have a sober one, but it gives the same impression as the Pardus system as a whole, solid as a rock, very stable and quiet (as opposed to working with MS Windows when your system is running all sorts of subprocesses and you can actually hear your CPU working all the time).

My Pardus system is just so fascinating quiet and stable....that resembles my wallpaper ;-)
40  Assistance / News & Announcements / Re: A new Pardus community. on: September 17, 2011, 11:08:34 AM
I've tried to send an email to Willem but it bounced, I don't have any
working address it seems..
It's this Willem Gielen

I use "Willem Gielen" <w.gielen@gmail.com>
41  Assistance / News & Announcements / Upgrade Manager existing Pardus 2009-->2011 on: August 24, 2011, 16:27:31 PM
Upgrade Manager, a Pardus tool that can be used to distupdate from
Pardus 2009 to Pardus 2011 release without a fresh installation is now
merged into Pardus 2009 Stable repository. Detailed information on how
to use Upgrade Manager can be found here [1].


[1]
http://en.pardus-wiki.org/HOWTO:Upgrade_2009_to_2011_with_upgrade_manager
42  Assistance / Pardus Project / Re: Why is registration disabled? on: July 31, 2011, 14:02:33 PM
I think it was becaues of some spam/fake profiles. But I agree it would help if it was more easy.
I would prefeer a CAPTCHA solution:
http://www.captcha.net/

The problem is that solutions in SMF version 1.1.14 do not help, when I trun it on I have 10 spamrequest within 30 minutes and I am not going to deal with those on a continuing base, no way. I have another SMF version 2.0 forum which has more options (combination of CAPTCHA and questions to answer), however the server on which this SMF forum is located (it is not my forum, nor my website or my server but Willem Gielen's website) does not allow upgrading to 2.x

So I have already tried some captcha options, but as just said when you have numerous spam registration request within minutes it is not the way for me to manage that.

Like Willem I also do not have much time to moderate these forums in general, so if someone wants to take over the whole thing I would suggest to get in contact with Willem who is the owner of this domain.
43  General / Wish list / Re: [SOLVED] IDJC / Icecast on: July 30, 2011, 22:19:03 PM
IDJC now also available for Pardus 2011 by following these instructions:

http://bugs.pardus.org.tr/show_bug.cgi?id=18659#c8
44  Assistance / Configuring Pardus / Re: [SOLVED]Pardus 2009 with LXDE on: July 17, 2011, 21:00:00 PM
I was wondering how LXDE desktop could be used next to KDE4 default desktop following a fresh Pardus 2011 installation.

In Package Manager I selected all files from LXDE however there is one conflict:

when you try to install the pardus-default-settings-lxde PISI package a popup window appears telling me that this package conflicts with the standard pardus-default-settings package that is already there and it asks whether to uninstall this conflicting package?

I was afraid to damage my KDE4 desktop so I declined. When firing up a LXDE session there are no start menu and so on visible, probably because the pardus-default-settings-lxde PISI was not installed.

Can anyone clear this issue up for me?
45  Assistance / Hardware / Re: Pardus on a Macbook Pro on: July 14, 2011, 08:37:33 AM
Blog (in dutch) of someone who put 64-bit Pardus 2011.1 in his MacBook Pro with only three minor issues plus solutions (use Google Translate for other languages)

http://opensourcefrog.blogspot.com/2011/07/hoe-geef-je-een-macbook-pro-zijn-pardus.html
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