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16  Assistance / News & Announcements / Pardus 2009.1 NOW in Linux Format on: March 04, 2010, 22:06:44 PM
Pardus 2009.1
A government-endorsed Linux distro? Yes, and it's actually rather good,
despite the lack of English documentation. (Nick Veitch) 
http://www.linuxformat.co.uk/

17  General / The Pub / CRYPTOME.ORG TAKEN DOWN by Microsoft Court Order on: February 25, 2010, 18:49:30 PM
John Young a tireless crusader for public display of doccuments that the government and companys would rather the public never see has had a website www.cryptome.org removed from the internet. The website infamous for hosting all manner of internal publications that provide proof of co-operation with law enforcement by all the major internet portals and the prices that they charge for providing access to users emails phones and computers. Skype, AOL, Yahoo, Microsoft and others including Telecoms providers.

Cryptome hosted the Microsoft file COFFEE Computerized Online Forensic Evidence Program a MS suite designed to collect information from any computer using microsoft products.
Collecting passwords and defeating user installed protection.
Within days of Cryptomes release the Geek community released a patch to defeat the program.

Young is fighting the takedown notice on the grounds that the company is mis using the DMCA Digital Millenium Copywright Act. As of today CRYPTOME.ORG is down.


Heres the temporary site address for you to visit http://cryptomeorg.siteprotect.net/
18  General / As seen on the internet / Re: SilveOS.com (Silverlight operating system] on: February 25, 2010, 17:51:55 PM

SilveOS.com is a Silverlight operating system (sometimes called a Web OS or a Webtop or a cloud computer).  Wink



Silverlight for Linux s free plugin: http://www.go-mono.com/moonlight/

Hendrikus Godvliet
19  General / As seen on the internet / Re: Igelle (New Linux-Distri) on: February 25, 2010, 17:48:50 PM

a new Linux-Distri named Igelle you find here  Wink


I find this a very remarkable new Linux Distro


"Linux software applications are notoriously difficult to install. The open source nature of most of these
applications is a tremendous strength for them, but it is also a weakness in that installation of an
application distributed in source code form always requires it to be compiled prior to installation. For
programmers, this is a routine task, but for anyone less acquinted with compiling software, this can
easily be very daunting. Resolving dependencies, header files and libraries doesn't make it any easier –
and, in fact, can quickly prove complicated even for the most experienced system administrator and
programmer.

Various methods of packaging and compiling these software packages have been proposed and
implemented over the years, some of them with strict dependency monitoring, some with less strict.
Entire Linux distributions have been developed over the idea of simply using the source code and no
compiled binaries at all (the so-called “source-based” distributions).
Igelle, through Sjapp, assumes a sort of a “hybrid” approach to software packaging and distribution.
Sjapps are installed on an Igelle system in a binary, precompiled form, yet these can be easily produced
on the host system from source code prior to installation.

As it comes to dependency resolution, no inter-dependencies between different Sjapps are maintained.
Sjapps are assumed to be “independent”, and dependent only on the core operating system on which
they are installed. Sjapps can contain their own, built-in libraries that the applications may need in
order to operate. Commonly used shared libraries are assumed to be provided for by the core operating
system.



Hendrikus Godvliet

20  General / General topics / Re: Pardus vs. other distros on: February 23, 2010, 11:56:34 AM
I've been using Linux for 3 years but I'm still a newbie. When I recently bought a new computer, I tested over a dozen distros because my old provider quit. I tested them on an old laptop (Linux and Windows on one drive), an old SCSI server (2 linuxes on 2 drives), and the new computer (Win7 on one drive and 2 Linuxes on the second drive). The top 4 distros were Pardus, PCLinusOS, Mandriva, and Mint KDE. Pardus was the easiest install and the most user-friendly. I especially liked the clean desktop with only one click to get Favorites. Pardus had the most up-to-date programs. It found my printers, graphic cards, and wireless easily. Other distros require you to find your network and give a password everytime you log on. You also don't need a password to get new programs - good. Pardus was the only distro that found the graphics driver for my server so I could get 1280 resolution. It also was the only distro that found the newest driver for my new nvidia based computer. None of the other distros created a Grub that allowed me to access the second Linux distro on a computer. The intro displayed the word "linux" but the sectors were wrong. Only Pardus did it right. I probably could have fixed the Grub but I just don't feel like wasting my time.
Of course, nothing is perfect. I couldn't find Compiz like it said in the Pardus Wiki. After looking in this forum I realized Compiz isn't here. But the system-desktop works almost as well as Compiz. Pardus doesn't have Gnome programs like Evolution, Pan, and PySol - I like these better than the KDE counterparts. The only bug? I found is that video songs like Beethoven.com require over a minute before they start playing. And the video never does start - just a black screen. But this is minor compared to all the great advantages of Pardus. I'm now awaiting KDE4.4 on Pardus.

I wish that one of the computer magazines would use your post as Review Wink

You totally describes my own experience.

Greetings Hendrikus
21  General / As seen on the internet / Re: SilveOS.com (Silverlight operating system] on: February 19, 2010, 21:25:39 PM
This isn´t a real OS! It is just running virtually in a browser window.
The Silverlight-plugin is providing the background for this "OS" in the browser.

Silverlight is a try of Microsoft to attack Adobe Flash and it is based upon the .NET platform.

Microsoft tries together with Novell to get Silverlight onto the Linux maschines.
Siverlight for Linux is named Mono.

What is Silverlight: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Silverlight

More importand:
Mono is critical for a free Desktop: http://boycottnovell.com/2008/03/24/mono-danger-to-linux/

Across the Internet you will find much more critical announcements about Mono.

 Lips Sealed


Thanks  Wink
22  General / As seen on the internet / Re: SilveOS.com (Silverlight operating system] on: February 19, 2010, 14:27:30 PM
Hello,

SilveOS.com is a Silverlight operating system (sometimes called a Web OS or a Webtop or a cloud computer).  Wink

Greetings
Andreas




if you are using a Linux, FreeBSD or SolarisOS operating system, please press the Click to Install Huh?
23  General / As seen on the internet / Re: Pardus 2009.1 Screenshots & Slight-Show on: February 14, 2010, 13:42:28 PM
Hello together,

you find some nice Pardus 2009.1-Screenshots and Slight-Show here  Wink

Greetings
Andreas

Ore with a / your Google account http://picasaweb.google.nl/hendrikusgodvliet/Pardus20091#slideshow/5438075899888820402

Greetings Hendrikus
24  General / General topics / Re: A book about PiSi: "# pisi --howto" on: February 12, 2010, 22:56:42 PM
Hi Hendrikus,

you can believe me it's not just a book about howto compiling PiSi build files from SVN.

Compiling PiSi packages by "sudo pisi build /path/to/pspec.xml" is not a real "work". Everyone can do this. But before that you need valid build files for the PiSi package: pspec.xml, actions.py, translations.xml

This book contains even more information. It describes the the easiest way how to write PiSi build files from A to Z by lots of examples.

The PiSi build files on the SVN server are done by people who knows PiSi. My intention with this book is to "show/teach" others who don't now anything about PiSi and programming ...

Hope you understand, what I'm trying to explain ^^^ (sorry for my bad English).


Regards,
Gürkan

Gürkan

First i have to say again  "many thanks for your efforts with your Pisi How to book"
Zuerst muss ich einmal sagen "vielen Dank für Ihre Bemühungen mit Ihrem Pisi How to buch"

Quote
The PiSi build files on the SVN server are done by people who knows PiSi. My intention with this book is to "show/teach" others who don't now anything about PiSi and programming ...

Your further explanation is very helpful and enlightening
Ihre weitere Erklärung ist sehr hilfreich und aufschlussreich


Hendrikus Godvliet
25  General / General topics / Re: A book about PiSi: "# pisi --howto" on: February 12, 2010, 22:25:26 PM
Hi altogether  Smiley

Thank at all for your feedbacks!  Cheesy

This book is maybe not a > perfect < book. But it is a first step for making development of PiSi packges easier for everyone.

I'm planing to finish it until June/July 2010. The English translation will be released later (because by community-work Wink ).


Regard,
Gürkan



Hello Gürkan

On http://forum.ubuntu-nl.org/andere-distributies/even-een-uitstapje-pardus-2009-1-beta/msg535972/
you can read the responses of enthusiastic Ubuntu users who have installed Pardus:
 
If there was more software (and an official Gnome edition), I do not use Ubuntu, but Pardus.
Agree. It seems not so hard to be self-pisi packages, but a good how-to, I could not find.
Have some pisiyap tampered with, but that did not work. Also on the Pardus forums is little information.
If they pick it must be a topdistro.
I hope that a good howto (or program) is to make packages self-PISI ('m not so self at home), but I found the software for my major.


What's the point, people even Ubuntu user like Pardus. But they like to know how to make there own Pisi packages!

And the question is how can you make them. Your Pisi how to is a remarkable work a first step for making development of PiSi packges easier for everyone.

My first question about how to make a Pisi package:
Are we only able to make a package from a svn repositories or playgroundlist?
What to do when you have a program that's not in the svn repositories or playgroundlist.


You can follow my Dutch Pisi package research on http://sites.google.com/site/pisipackages/


Hendrikus Godvliet




26  General / General topics / Re: A book about PiSi: "# pisi --howto" on: February 12, 2010, 22:05:44 PM

My first question about how to make a Pisi package:
Are we only able to make a package from a svn repositories or playgroundlist?
What to do when you have a program that's not in the svn repositories or playgroundlist.
  
Hendrikus Godvliet

As far as my little experience with the LXDE project PISi goes.

What was a good hint for  me (by Erdem Artan):

*Pick the source (tar.gz and so on) packages of the applications you want to pisify (what a nice word it is let's pisify something  Cheesy )

*Start with compiling in a test destination directory, e.g. in your /home/user directory (and use in most cases unless otherwise specified the well known compilation from source commands /configure make make install).

*This will show for you in which directories which type of files are stored upon compilation (so you will notice e.g. a /usr /lib/ and so on map in your destination directory being created upon compilation). Just browse through these fresh amde dirs and see which files are stored in which map. This information can then be used to configure your pspec.xml file in the correct way.

*The correct syntax for actions.py -the other main component of a PISI package- is much more complex especially when the application is compiled in a non-standard way. The wiki (english) gives lots of example commands that can be used in actions.py but I suggest you seek a compagnon to help you when you get stuck in this part.

I haven't read all of it yet but next to the wiki also the pisi cooking book announced in this thread provides you lots of background info.

It is also easier when you can use old pisi files, or rather old pspec.xml and actions.py files to see how the job was done previously. You can then just adjust things and play around based on the old pisi examples to get a bit familiar with things.

Hope these are useful hints from a pisifying novice like me    Grin

Thanks Michiel

You can follow my Dutch Pisi package research on http://sites.google.com/site/pisipackages/

let's pisify something  Cheesy )
let's pisify something  Cheesy )
let's pisify something  Cheesy )
let's Do it! Cheesy )


Hendrikus 
27  Assistance / Pardus Project / Pisicevir debian, redhat distribution on: February 12, 2010, 18:24:00 PM
Pisicevir debian, redhat distribution of such packages pardus / pisi package is a tool that convert ...

Deb packages in the release of alpha2 dependencies will be downloaded and turn into a little kitty will be finished soon alpha2)


http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=nl&ie=UTF-8&sl=tr&tl=en&u=http://code.google.com/p/pisicevir/&prev=_t



Has anyone experience with this Pisicevir package?
28  General / As seen on the internet / a distribution that's pure computing gold on: February 11, 2010, 18:18:15 PM
DO you know what I love so much about Linux?
It's the feeling you get when you stumble upon a distribution that's pure computing gold.
True, you have to wade through a lot of dross to achieve this - there are far too many distributions all trying to do minor variations of the same thing, in my view.
But it's a worthwhile quest when you find something as good as Pardus (http://www.pardus.org.tr/eng/index.html).

http://reddevil62-techhead.blogspot.com/2007/11/review-pardus-20073.html
29  General / General topics / Re: A book about PiSi: "# pisi --howto" on: February 08, 2010, 13:15:38 PM

This book is written by me, Gürkan Zengin. It includes detailed documentation about PiSi and many tutorials about building PiSi packages.

Regards,
Gürkan

Thank's Gürkan for the remarkable work you have done with this #Pisi How To#
I wil start to make a study of it, rightnow!

Vielen Dank für die bemerkenswerte Arbeit.
Ich würde zunächst eine Studie zu machen, RightNow!


Quote
PiSi wurde wie alle anderen Eingenentwicklungen des Pardus Betriebs-
systems gänzlich in der Programmiersprache Python geschrieben und ist
ein fester Bestandteil von Pardus GNU/Linux. Denn in Python entwickelte
Here my Dutch Python site http://sites.google.com/site/linpypar/Home

My first question about how to make a Pisi package:
Are we only able to make a package from a svn repositories or playgroundlist?
What to do when you have a program that's not in the svn repositories or playgroundlist.
  

Hendrikus Godvliet


30  General / General topics / What about KVM on: February 08, 2010, 12:59:33 PM
Is there anyone who installed KVM _ Kernel-based virtual machine.
And what are your experience with KVM are there any remarkable difference with Virtualbox?

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