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Question: Which kernel series to follow?
Kernel 2.6.18   -3 (23.1%)
Kernel 2.6.20   -8 (61.5%)
Kernel 2.4.20   -0 (0%)
Some other kernel(Which one)   -2 (15.4%)
Total Voters: 11

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jaideep_jdof
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« on: October 29, 2007, 11:14:00 AM »

Which kernel series should Pardus Linux follow. Please read this article http://www.beranger.org/index.php?article=2696&page=3k.

It might change you opinion.
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« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2007, 12:16:41 PM »

Truthfully, I don't have a preference, but understand the aggravation that the 2.6.20 kernel is causing.  Once I finally got a hardware configuration that works for 2.6.18, I've backed off of my kernel campaign.
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« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2007, 15:40:05 PM »

hi,

IMHO it's not that important which kernel version we're using on. The important thing is that the version must have all recent drivers available to us. If version supports all bleeding edge hardware there is nothing to say anything about it. For example I have a brand new notebook and the first thing I did was to install pardus. Sadly speaking, pardus didn't recognise wifi nor ethernet interface. But it's not pardus' fault. It's called the cutting edge linux syndrome. I have to wait a few months until new version of drivers come out. I have to use vista for a while.

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« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2007, 17:42:41 PM »

Kickass laptop, HE.  I agree.  I'd love to see Pardus support Draft N wireless first, but know that it'll be a wait for now.  Good thing is that Virtual Box runs on Vista.   Grin
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« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2007, 04:56:35 AM »

Hm.. I use vanilla kernel (2.6.22.9), it works fine and stable.

[~]> uname -a
Linux ninjatown 2.6.22.9 #5 SMP Sat Oct 20 07:11:24 EEST 2007 i686 Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.20GHz GNU/Linux
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« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2007, 05:00:02 AM »

For example I have a brand new notebook and the first thing I did was to install pardus. Sadly speaking, pardus didn't recognise wifi nor ethernet interface. But it's not pardus' fault. It's called the cutting edge linux syndrome. I have to wait a few months until new version of drivers come out. I have to use vista for a while.
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h.e.

What's your device model? Maybe, the drivers you need has been included to newer kernel tree, I can check that.
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« Reply #6 on: October 30, 2007, 08:36:45 AM »

Hm.. I use vanilla kernel (2.6.22.9), it works fine and stable.

[~]> uname -a
Linux ninjatown 2.6.22.9 #5 SMP Sat Oct 20 07:11:24 EEST 2007 i686 Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.20GHz GNU/Linux

On which version of pardus are you using this kernel. Did you had to change any system config files.
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« Reply #7 on: October 30, 2007, 11:13:17 AM »

I think his is the Acer in his signature:  Acer Aspire 5520G-402G16, AMD Turion 64 x2 TL-58 1.9GHz, Nvidia Geforce 8400M G 128MB
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« Reply #8 on: October 30, 2007, 19:46:27 PM »

I feel sooner or later we have to move to kernel 2.6.20 whether its good or bad. Anyway there will be no kernel 3.0.00 according to Mr. Linus.
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« Reply #9 on: October 30, 2007, 22:20:48 PM »

I voted for "some other" because though I understand that Pardus is a long development cycle distro, opensource is about innovation.
New versions appear frequent and bring some new features. That's why it's useful to have the latest Gimp or OpenOffice.
The same goes for the kernel - the latest is the greatest - wouldn't there have been that little issue: it's the foundation for the system and changing it can break so many things.
What a pity...
Edit #1:
After second reading Eren.Turkay's post, I've downloaded kernel 2.6.23.1 source, configured and compiled it. It runs d*mn bloody well Smiley
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« Reply #10 on: November 01, 2007, 07:58:42 AM »

What's your device model? Maybe, the drivers you need has been included to newer kernel tree, I can check that.


@Eren:

I have Acer Aspire 5520G-402G16. My detailed system configuration is in here.
http://worldforum.pardus-linux.nl/index.php?topic=1358.0

I managed to make wireless working by using ndiswrapper. Sound started to work by updating alsa. But Ethernert interface still doesn't work which supposed to supported by forcedeth drivers comes along with kernel. Newer kernels may support nfroce 6 ethernet interfaces.

Can you please tell me how can I install vanilla kernel ? I don't know how to do that.

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« Reply #11 on: November 01, 2007, 14:09:17 PM »

I may have to try that!
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« Reply #12 on: November 20, 2007, 15:35:36 PM »

Can you please tell me how can I install vanilla kernel ? I don't know how to do that.

Seconded.

I was going to start a new thread asking why pardus is still on 2.6.18 but I guess others have the same question.

I installed 2007.3 last night and although I haven't had time to play with it much it seems to have all the pardus goodness I remember from before and is very fast and responsive. But, for a distro that comes ootb with firefox 2.0.0.9 and kde 3.5.8, why is it still with 2.6.18?

I boot about 8 other distros on my machine and most have a version of 2.6.22, one is 2.6.20 something and a couple are at 2.6.23. I'm the first to admit I know nothing about kernels but don't later versions increase peripheral useability with new drivers and such?

Anyway, very happy with what pardus has given this time but just curious about the kernel version thing.
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« Reply #13 on: November 20, 2007, 20:58:06 PM »

Can you please tell me how can I install vanilla kernel ? I don't know how to do that.

Seconded.

I was going to start a new thread asking why pardus is still on 2.6.18 but I guess others have the same question.

I installed 2007.3 last night and although I haven't had time to play with it much it seems to have all the pardus goodness I remember from before and is very fast and responsive. But, for a distro that comes ootb with firefox 2.0.0.9 and kde 3.5.8, why is it still with 2.6.18?

I boot about 8 other distros on my machine and most have a version of 2.6.22, one is 2.6.20 something and a couple are at 2.6.23. I'm the first to admit I know nothing about kernels but don't later versions increase peripheral useability with new drivers and such?

Anyway, very happy with what pardus has given this time but just curious about the kernel version thing.
I think pardus follows a yearly release policy and bug fix during the year so may be the will update to kernel 2.6.20 series in version 2008.
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« Reply #14 on: December 26, 2007, 17:40:28 PM »

I've built a new system, played with it etc. From an old CD-ROM I just installed Pardus 2007.2 again (*). Upgraded the system, the kernel is 2.6.18.8-86 #2 SMP. Can anyone confirm that this is indeed the latest kernel or should I re-install using 2007.3? I've no comment on the kernel version, I'm just asking.


(*) I figured I could download an ISO and run upgrade or use an old ISO and upgrade: the latter is less download.

Edit: I apologize, my question is out of place in this thread but I'll explain. I've setup my system with sidux, a distro based on Debian sid, using kernel 2.6.23.12-slh64-smp-2 atm. I installed Pardus on another partition on an IDE disk. Changed GRUB to add Pardus to the boot menu: kernel panic when booting into Pardus.
 
The situation described in the link in the first post got me: I could boot into the Pardus kernel but from there on everything went wrong since I added Pardus to GRUB as residing on /dev/sdb7, which is the disk/ partition according to the 2.6.23 kernel. Except when the Pardus kernel boots, it's looking for /dev/hda0 since it's an IDE disk and the 2.6.18 kernel uses the old naming scheme...
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