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« on: July 09, 2010, 17:14:05 PM »

Hallo,
I had to buy een new desktop  and wanted to install the latest Pardus 2009.2. The installation just stopped after a few seconds in the wellknown picture (purple) with the question wether I agree or not agree conditions: no text at all in the visible small windows.
Than I tried an older version: P2008.2. That went allright.
In System information I noticed : Screen--- Unknown model [nVidia Corporation].
The graphic card is" Nvidia PCI-Express G210-512MB", a card about half a year old. In the old PC I had " Nvidia PCI-Express 7300S-256 MB, which did allright with P 2009.2.
   A  Can this newer card be the problem?
   B  How do I tackle this ?
   C  Is there a list of cards supported by P 2009.2 and where can I find it?

I 'd like some support to tackle this problem.
Thanks, Peter
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« Reply #1 on: July 09, 2010, 20:04:07 PM »

Did you try to install using a CD?  Huh?
In that case there is a change that your CD has an error.
And as this is a new computer I expect it to be able to boot from USB.
May you could also try the USB method which is described in THIS WIKI.
And I don't expect the graphic card to be the cause of the problem.
And did you try the various F3 Video Mode options.
Especially the 'Text Mode' option?
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« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2010, 09:09:07 AM »

I downloaded from the dutch as well as from the turkish mirror and burned them at the lowest possible speed (2,4) on separate DVD' s .
I used the 2009.1 CD before on the old PC without any problem, but this CD shows the same problem on he new one.
The video-options showed sometimes 800x600 and sometimes 1280x1024, the latter is the good one.

I did' t try the text Mode.
I will try, before the heat slows me down.

Gr P
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« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2010, 09:18:39 AM »

Note:
I used the 2009.1 CD on the old PC, but this gives the same trouble as the new DVD's on the new PC.

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« Reply #4 on: July 10, 2010, 09:35:46 AM »


Good morning,

I tried the install DVD in the text mode (F3): this resulted after a few  seconds in a complete black screen.  Sad

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« Reply #5 on: July 10, 2010, 10:25:15 AM »

I have 3 more options to try:
1. Use the USB option.
2. Install
.....P2008.2. That went allright.
and with the help of the Upgrade Manager (is in the p2008 repo) upgrade to P2009 with this result.
3. Try to get the help of the real experts with a Bug report.

And if option 2 is successful you can always use option 3 to get it installed in the proper way and to make Pardus better.
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« Reply #6 on: July 12, 2010, 18:31:16 PM »

Hallo
I tried option 2, updated 2008.2. all right.
Than I added in Pisi the 2009 turkish address, (I left the 2008.2 and the contrib in the list) and upgraded in the console with: sudo pisi up -c system.base. All the packages were downloaded. Somewhere in the process it stopped with the message that the Python pack failed.
So that route did not work for me?! Sad

I still think it has something to do with the Graph card. In the WIKI I found the list of known Graph cards for  P 2007, which is rather old. I assume there is a list somewhere of the 2009 repo.
I would be very pleased to get that list, so I can change the card at my supplier.  Wink
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« Reply #7 on: July 12, 2010, 20:52:45 PM »

I tried option 2, updated 2008.2. all right.
^^ this is the good way to start ,
but the next step is WRONG
Than I added in Pisi the 2009 turkish address, (I left the 2008.2 and the contrib in the list) and upgraded in the console with: sudo pisi up -c system.base. All the packages were downloaded. Somewhere in the process it stopped with the message that the Python pack failed.
So that route did not work for me?! Sad
Just let
the Upgrade Manager (is in the p2008 repo)
do the work.
It will automatically change the required repositories and get the required packages and set additional requirements for a successful conversion.

I am not an expert but I don't think the installation failure has anything to do with the Nvidia video card.
The driver for the video card is only required to make full use of all the features of KDE (3D etc).
And this only after the installation.
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« Reply #8 on: July 14, 2010, 06:52:06 AM »

Good morning,
 As you said, I left the Pack Manager do its work with only the 2008.2 and contrib in the addresses. The result was the message: " 2008.2 complete and contrib complete. No packages to be updated/upgraded."

So, what' s next? I am out of posibilities.

Gr, Peter
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« Reply #9 on: July 14, 2010, 07:57:30 AM »

I tried option 2, updated 2008.2. all right.
Than I added in Pisi the 2009 turkish address, (I left the 2008.2 and the contrib in the list) and upgraded in the console with: sudo pisi up -c system.base. All the
I don't think that is suposed to work. There used to be some kind of special script to make a major step update, like from 2008 to 2009.
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« Reply #10 on: July 14, 2010, 08:36:33 AM »

Good morning,
 As you said, I left the Pack Manager do its work ........
I did not say that, you should read more carefully.

I said
Just let
the UPGRADE MANAGER (is in the p2008 repo)
do the work.
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« Reply #11 on: July 14, 2010, 09:32:17 AM »

Hallo,
As far as I know the Upgrade manager in P2008  is called Package Manager and there I have the 2 addresses: 2008.2 and contrib.
Than I did the following:
* no programms working,
* Start Konsole in System,
* su
* sudo pisi up, -c system.base
 With the above mentioned result.

What am I doing wrong!  Huh?

Gr P
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« Reply #12 on: July 14, 2010, 10:37:29 AM »

As far as I know the Upgrade manager in P2008  is called Package Manager
^^ this is not right.

The Upgrade Manager is a different program than the Package Manger.
If it is not already installed, it can be installed (like any other program) after doing a search with "upgrade-manager" in the Package Manger.
Or in Konsole with
Code:
sudo pisi it upgrade-manager

After installation it can be found in:
K Menu > Programs > System >  Upgrade Manager (Distribution Upgrade to Pardus 2009)
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« Reply #13 on: July 18, 2010, 10:58:52 AM »

Hallo Atolboo,

A bit of feedback:
Due to problems with my desktop work-PC I have been a view days out of the air.

In the mean time I had an other graphic card installed from the list in the WIKI supporting the Pardus 2007 version.
(It is still a pity that such a list is not available or difficult to find for recent repo's; it would prevent a lot of unnecessary trouble. I don't know how to get such a message to Turkey.)

With the new card my problem was solved and I had the latest P2009.2 installed and running.

Greeting from Peter
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« Reply #14 on: July 18, 2010, 11:19:27 AM »

.... I don't know how to get such a message to Turkey.....
The only way to do this is  (as far as I know):
http://bugs.pardus.org.tr/ > New >
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Grafik / Graphics:
Pardus grafik bileşenleri: Duvar kağıtları, simgeler, renk temaları, vb...
Pardus-specific graphical components
and your request is seen at the right place/people. Wink
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