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Lisa
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« Reply #60 on: August 11, 2012, 01:39:29 AM »

Wow!  I finally hit the nail head instead of my thumb? Grin

Have a good night sleep, you can think this over tomorrow.  But before I eat supper, I too wonder what changed.  I did some updates from erincanka's smart repo, they were:
Operation #36: install
Date: 2012-08-08 14:50
    * xulrunner is upgraded from 2.0.1-52-p11-x86_64 to 14.0.1-54-p11-x86_64.
    * valgrind 3.6.1-18-p11-x86_64 is installed.
    * firefox is upgraded from 12.0-171-p11-x86_64 to 14.0.1-172-p11-x86_64.
Operation #35: install
Date: 2012-08-08 14:40
    * nss is upgraded from 3.13.3-46-p11-x86_64 to 3.13.5-47-p11-x86_64.
Operation #34: install
Date: 2012-08-08 14:39
    * nspr is upgraded from 4.9-33-p11-x86_64 to 4.9.2-34-p11-x86_64.


When I get software from pardususer or pardus stable on my Anka test os, I turn off erincanka and anka test repos so they don't get confused and get that error 'The component system.base cannot be found.' 

Also, since I use dial up, I have had to change the following long ago to get nameservers in my resolv.conf file due to how ip-up and ip-down are written where ip-up looks defaultingly for resolv.conf file in /etc/ppp.  So, I created resolv.conf text file with the 3 nameservers under /etc/ppp.  I also edited /etc/ppp/options by adding 'usepeeerdns'.  Don't know if this is what makes the difference for me.   Odd as I am usually the one that has dns problems and not you dsl and wifi folks.  I've included my service list. 
And, in krunner under the wrench icon, I have unticked Contacts, Calendar Events, Kopete Contacts, and Nepomuk Desktop Search Runner.

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« Reply #61 on: August 11, 2012, 08:34:52 AM »

...... My resolv.conf:
nameserver 193.140.100.210
nameserver 193.140.100.215
nameserver 193.140.100.220
Thanks Lisa  that also did solve the problem here.
My DNS-server was 192.168.0.1 (which I get with an automatic DHCP request).
After setting to the above fixed values, the problem is solved.
What I do not understand is, is that I detected my problem at 09 august 09 around 23:00 UTC.
At that time I was busy building the citrix-client package.
And suddenly I was faced with this non-reachable http://svn.pardus.org.tr/ server.
And it was also detected by other people at other (very different) locations.
Maybe some experts can explain this as this is a complete mystery to me.
My Android-tablet has the same problem trying to connect to http://www.pardus-wiki.org/
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« Reply #62 on: August 11, 2012, 10:33:18 AM »

My Android-tablet has the same problem trying to connect to http://www.pardus-wiki.org/
After modifying the DNS-server on my Android-tablet I can contact http://www.pardus-wiki.org/.
Further investigation shows that there is the following settings in my ZyXEL P-2602R-D1A ADSL modem:
Dynamic DNS Setup  > Sevice provider: WWW.DynDNS.ORG (I can't change that)
Is it caused by this ^^^ Huh?
And by setting them the above nameserver, you bypass WWW.DynDNS.ORG (I guess) and the problem is solved.
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« Reply #63 on: August 11, 2012, 14:21:32 PM »

I'm in Pardus 2011.2 now (not Anka) Of the three listed nameservers, the only one that works is the second one for some reason.  If I remove the 215 nameserver, I can't ping anything, not even with Firefox.  I am not sure how dyndns.org works, but am looking at their page right now to see if there is information there.  I'm going to look at the Turkish forum, too to see if there are similar problems. 
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« Reply #64 on: August 11, 2012, 14:40:34 PM »

You may want to try "opendns " as well Lisa

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« Reply #65 on: August 11, 2012, 15:04:44 PM »

My OpenDNS IP Addresses 208.67.222.222 and 208.67.220.220 also have this problem.
Is this also a sign that they are doing something with pardus.org.tr Huh?
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« Reply #66 on: August 11, 2012, 15:47:36 PM »

Is there someone to ask at .tr?
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« Reply #67 on: August 11, 2012, 16:18:45 PM »

Is there someone to ask at .tr?
Yesterday (before chatting) I asked in #pardus about it and they obviously had no problem and did not know what I was talking about. At that time I did not know how to interpret that info - I began to suspect a DNS problem but had no idea yet about details and was far from a solution.

And meanwhile I know from a whois-service that the address range  '193.140.100.0 - 193.140.100.255' belongs to TUBITAK, in Ankara. This means that Lisa's name servers are located in TR.

So using a nameserver from TR enables you to access the Pardus addresses. The rest of the world seems to have lost the connection. This makes a little more sense to me, but it looks like TR wants to make it difficult for foreigners. And it does not fit to the promise that support for a forum could be provided - even if a forum would set up on a Turkish server, I now understand that we could not trust the forum to stay reachable from anywhere in the world.  

And I still have no idea how this could happen. But then again, my knowledge about DNS is limited.  I'll investigate further...
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« Reply #68 on: August 11, 2012, 16:38:08 PM »

I know from reading elsewhere that Turkey has a history of internet access control of convenience.
When you deal with large blocks of addresses , there is some "collateral damage ".
This has been mentioned before by Saygili : http://worldforum.pardus-linux.nl/index.php?topic=4416.0

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« Reply #69 on: August 11, 2012, 17:10:17 PM »

Thanks anglo for the free nameserver suggestion.  From what I understand, all that are having problems are not using the Pardus provided nameservers in etc/resolv.conf.default which gets filled in resolv.conf when ones connection starts? 

Okay, so I just went back to the default Pardus setup, (no /etc/ppp/resolv.conf file, /etc/ppp/options only contains 'lock' with no added 'usepeerdns', which means when I use kppp I have to change DNS from automatic to manual because ever since Pardus 2011 release the Pardus supplied nameservers would never get filled in resolv.conf.  I then manually add the free verizon nameservers which have always worked for me (4.2.2.1, 4.2.2.2) and now I am experiencing the same problem you are having.  When I go to the pardus wiki page, it tries to ping it and only a white page with a progress bar in upper left hand which never brings up the website.  I then opened konqueror browser and went to the Pardus wiki and it shows that it expired on Aug.10 as is seen in the attachement.  Persons at Pardus will have to renew it if they are so inclined.  Odd though that I can ping the page when I have the second working nameserver 193.140.100.215 in my resolv.conf file. 


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« Reply #70 on: August 11, 2012, 20:06:04 PM »

.........  I'll investigate further...
Thanks for this info and help to get the puzzle solved Wink
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« Reply #71 on: August 11, 2012, 23:26:38 PM »

I have added valgrind to pardususer.de repo.
Now everybody can upgrade to Firefox-14.0.1 after disabling 1. Official package source: without changing there DNS-server
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« Reply #72 on: August 11, 2012, 23:34:53 PM »

Valgrind - that reminds me.

Valgrind is a set of debugging/profiling tools. A program that is meant for all-day use should really not have a dependency to valgrind. Such a dependency should only exist while debugging. I tell you, there is something out of order!


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.........  I'll investigate further...
Thanks for this info and help to get the puzzle solved Wink
Thanks, but so far we got the most useful info from Lisa Smiley

As far as I can tell now, www.pardus.org and the official repositories are reachable again, even with my normal name server in place.

http://www.pardus-wiki.org/ is reachable too. BUT! It does not deliver any page to me, just a weird progress bar.

Meanwhile I thought: Would it be possible that someone forgot to renew the addresses that were about to expire yesterday?
But the fact that the Wiki does not answer even though it is reachable looks like a purposeful difficulty to me.
I WANT to believe that all this is/was not some kind of mean trickery against foreigners... But... I don't know.

And I still cannot provide a reasonable explanation about how the DNS issue could happen.

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« Reply #73 on: August 12, 2012, 09:42:41 AM »

As far as I can tell now, www.pardus.org and the official repositories are reachable again
Also confirmed with OpenDNS IP Addresses 208.67.222.222 and 208.67.220.220

http://www.pardus-wiki.org/ is reachable too. BUT! It does not deliver any page to me, just a weird progress bar.
I get the picture bellow.

..... I tell you, there is something out of order!
The source is from here

And I think this is one of the last packages I (and other folks) have made for pardususer.de repo.
As you can read here it will close down within a couple of months (probably the end of the year).
The only option that this will change is when something very useful and trustworthy materializes out of Anka before that time.
After that time I do not have the infrastructure at my disposal to do my .


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« Reply #74 on: August 12, 2012, 15:42:12 PM »

How much I appreciate your work, atolboo, and a.palius, for the software you have built for us to use.  The loss of the pardususer depot will be missed.

Looking at Özgürlükİçin İçin forum in google translate, I found one person that could not reach the wiki, and I assume they live in Turkey.  I'm not understanding the answer of New Moon.  There is also a detail about Pardus wiki at the main page of Özgürlükİçin İçin written on the 9th Aug.

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