Let Pardus become #1

[trixon]

Is it possible to change the link for Let Pardus become #1 in the header?
Today it is http://distrowatch.com/pardus
Distrowatch toplist is not a popularity contest nor is it a way to become #1.

I would like to change it to
Let Pardus become #1 http://bugs.pardus.org.tr/

What do You think?

[Michiel]

I agree and have already adjusted the News header above 

[trixon]

Wow, that was fast, Great!

[John A]

I hope Pardus can be among the top ten in Distrowatch list some day.

[Michiel]

I hope Pardus can be among the top ten in Distrowatch list some day.

yeaj, but then as a spin-off of all work and effort put in (autonomic growth) and not as the result of a beauty-contest or a popularity test in which hundred-thousands of people echo each other as a group of sheep  

[John A]

I agree. But I think the only thing so far that have hold Pardus back from the top ten is the relative small software repo compared to the other distributions. If you read reviews and comments in other forums.
If it was near like PCLinuxOS in that matter, I think it have good chans to became a hit.

So I hope a lot to Pardus 2011.

[Michiel]

Well I think even more withholding Pardus popularity is the lack of english-laguage based news / e-zines. The forums are ok, and some Pardus user communities (like in Germany or France or Sweden) do a terrific good job, but the most interesting pages "close to the fire" (i.e. the Official Pardus website, Planet Pardus and the http://www.ozgurlukicin.com/ website that provides daily news but in turkish only) do not provide english pages or are updated far less ferquently then the turkish ones. When you compare e.g. Planet Pardus to its turkish equivalent the difference is striking.

Now Google Translate can be your friend in some circumstances but it is not ideal.

In other words, marketing outside the native-Turkish coimmunity is not high on the priority list.

However investing in good quality operating systems can pay out in the end...!

The demand for far more translations of news to english has passed this forum already quite some times, but no one has yet jumped in to this...  

However popularity should not be an objective or goal by itself, should it?

The community (also in these forums) is ok and helpfull though still dependent on few people, hopefully in time more people that come across Pardus will stick to it and enter these forums, the more co-creation and co-experiences the better.

[John A]

I write a bug report (request) about this thing for a long time ago:
http://bugs.pardus.org.tr/show_bug.cgi?id=12797

But I dont realy know how they will deal with it. So be free to add comments or suggestions there to.

[Michiel]

E.g. when you open the January issue (PDF) of the e-zine http://www.ozgurlukicin.com/e-dergi/

you notice although it is in Turkish quite some funny facts to notice, things that are there but you were not aware of and things that make Pardus life more fun.

So in this ezine I read about a PISI package present in 2009 repo that is the Java version of the classical boardgame Risk (also called risk in the repo), and I read about the PISI package Clementine which appears to be a fork of Amarok.

Those things are nice to know and be noticed of, however you will have to get after the news by yourself and it is not coming to you in english. Nvertheless, perhaps the good part is that it increases curiosity  

You want to know what these turkish texts means don't you ?  

[John A]

Yes it would be nice if the magazine was in some kind of English version to.
I think it would benefit Pardus in general if they get a larger userbase around the world.
More who use and test it, write bugreports and so on.. And at the end a better product.

They actually got a English official forum:
http://www.ozgurlukicin.com/forum/english/

But its not so easy to find and not so active I think.

[trixon]

I agree. But I think the only thing so far that have hold Pardus back from the top ten is the relative small software repo compared to the other distributions.

One can not just compare package count from distro to distro.
Take kdesdk for example, in Ubuntu, kdesdk is a meta package, depending on many others, while in Pardus, kdesdk contains all of the programs in one package. If that is good or bad is a matter of taste I guess.

If you really miss a program, make a good request for it, tell them what it does, url, including links to source code, then the package count will grow.

Be prepared to test the requested package an give feedback to the packagers also.

Or one could become a packager!