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« Reply #15 on: January 22, 2011, 02:41:51 AM »

I already had a fully up to date 2011 RC install but decided to do a new install with the 2011 disk. It was a great experience. The installer is slick. And I saw Kaptan for the first time in the 2011 series of iso's.

The install was fast, easy, and complete. I currently have 9 other distros installed on my machine and this has instantly vaulted into a competition with Arch as my favourite.

Well done and a great job by all. I really hope Pardus becomes more well known and I will do what I can to spread the word.

(Any chance putty gets put in the repos?)
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« Reply #16 on: January 22, 2011, 11:19:08 AM »

hi cdn

Coming from arch, have a go at making a pisi, the psspec.xml is straight forward, its like the top half of a pkgbuild.
the bottom half (make instal)l section is done through actions.py
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« Reply #17 on: January 23, 2011, 08:33:31 AM »

Anybody who has an idea when the upgrade manager would be ready? Or where we can track it? I am using 2009 on my work computer, so I don't want to do a re-install. Last time I did that from 2008 to 2009 and realized too late that I forgot a lot of small stuff behind...
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« Reply #18 on: January 24, 2011, 01:12:14 AM »

In case anyone is searching for the md5sums and the sha1sums of the new Pardus 2011 release, here they are:

For the Installation DVD .iso:

md5sums:

Code:
f48b76d3371c59a654438919891c059b  Pardus-2011-i686.iso

891fed02699a0b83175c90324cfbe1f8  Pardus-2011-x86_64.iso

sha1sums:

Code:
d7424b9c812b1b867ce2995a657b2cfb696fe10f  Pardus-2011-i686.iso

4aa1ec6479ebc7fdd75db6a863895dcd861be001  Pardus-2011-x86_64.iso

For the Live Image:

md5sums:

Code:
32f0a6fdc2ba219b909c03955b1caeee  Pardus-2011-Live-i686.iso

5e61142a1147219bd9cd9c9a29419354  Pardus-2011-Live-x86_64.iso

sha1sums:

Code:
ed97de8a80779dc540e32d38389adf3a12142761  Pardus-2011-Live-i686.iso

3d857543003f0829097e9fa26fbea6687425ad6c  Pardus-2011-Live-x86_64.iso

These were taken from the Turkish FTP server which atolboo mentioned in the first post in this thread:

ftp://ftp.pardus.org.tr/pub/ISO/Installation/2011/

ftp://ftp.pardus.org.tr/pub/ISO/Live/2011/

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« Reply #19 on: January 24, 2011, 02:06:41 AM »


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Users who want to upgrade from Pardus 2009 version, have to wait until development of the upgrade manager is completed.

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Gökçen Eraslan

This is a follow-up to bulaka's post, as well as a request for advice ...

For those who have taken the plunge and already installed Pardus 2011, did everything go smoothly and work correctly after the installation? Or did you experience some problems?

I'm guessing that it would probably be better to do a fresh installation of 2011 rather than attempt an upgrade of 2009.2, but I would like to make an informed decision before doing this (and deleting my 2009.2 partition, which is working perfectly).

atolboo, do you have an opinion about this? (It seems like there have been many changes "under the hood," and as a general rule with operating systems, the more changes, the greater the chance for breakage during an upgrade).

I downloaded the Installation DVD .iso today using FileZilla; it took over 4 hours, as the transfer speed from the Turkish FTP server was very slow (averaging approx. 50 KB/s). Luckily, the md5sum and sha1sum checked out fine, so I have a valid .iso file to burn.

Thanks in advance for your advice / opinions,
=david
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« Reply #20 on: January 24, 2011, 05:13:42 AM »

Thanks for the link to the webpage. I put it in the Swedish wiki so it be avaible there. Smiley
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« Reply #21 on: January 24, 2011, 11:22:31 AM »

atolboo, do you have an opinion about this? (It seems like there have been many changes "under the hood," and as a general rule with operating systems, the more changes, the greater the chance for breakage during an upgrade).
Yes, there is this part in the release announcement:
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Users who want to upgrade from Pardus 2009 version, have to wait until development of the upgrade manager is completed.
This means only a 100% new installation will do. Wink
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« Reply #22 on: January 24, 2011, 12:32:13 PM »

I downloaded the Installation DVD .iso today using FileZilla; it took over 4 hours, as the transfer speed from the Turkish FTP server was very slow (averaging approx. 50 KB/s). Luckily, the md5sum and sha1sum checked out fine, so I have a valid .iso file to burn.
My download is doing ..... (this is the maximum my provider will allow for 20€/month)

And there is also......
http://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/pub/os/Linux/distr/pardus/kurulan/2011/
http://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/pub/os/Linux/distr/pardus/calisan/2011/

And >THESE<


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« Reply #23 on: January 24, 2011, 16:12:26 PM »

Yes, there is this part in the release announcement:
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Users who want to upgrade from Pardus 2009 version, have to wait until development of the upgrade manager is completed.
This means only a 100% new installation will do. Wink

@atolboo,

Thank you for the clarification. I asked because I didn't understand what Mr. Eraslan meant. (I incorrectly assumed that the Pardus developers were close to completing this project / enhancement, and that it might be possible do a seamless upgrade from 2009.2 to 2011 via PiSi). It sounds like that is not the case, however.

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« Reply #24 on: January 25, 2011, 15:56:21 PM »

Well, there seems to be a misunderstanding here (If I did not understand it wrong  Cheesy).
This question (Will I be able to upgrade from 2009.2 to 2011 without a fresh install?) was asked many times, and the answer is: YES!

So let me give you the information which was repeated in the Ozgurlukicin.com Turkish forums many times;
Developers are working on an upgrade package, which will be available through 2009.2 repos as a PiSi package, and will be installed just like any other package from the repo. So 2009.2 users will upgrade to 2011 by installing it.

Hope it will come out soon.
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« Reply #25 on: January 25, 2011, 17:25:26 PM »

@Bekir,

Thank you for clarifying this for me, bulaka and everyone else. You're performing an invaluable service by notifying us of important information from the Turkish-language forum. Your efforts are appreciated.  Smiley

It's nice that users have the option of upgrading this way, if they wish. (In my case, based on my experience with other distros, I will probably do a fresh install. It just seems cleaner that way. I had some video-card-related problems getting the Install DVD [Kurulan] to run properly, but I finally found a solution last night).

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Could Bekir or bulaka please explain the meaning of the the terms Kurulan and ,Cali,san?

My Turkish is almost nonexistent, but I sometimes try looking up words in a dictionary ... I'm not sure I have identified the roots / infinitives properly, but this is my best guess:

kurulan > from kurulamak : 'to wipe dry', 'to dry' (Maybe as in 'wipe, erase [a hard drive]' (?))

,cali,san > from ,cali,smak : 'to work', 'to study', 'to try' (Maybe as in 'trial' [?])

(I know the "i" is supposed to be a dotless Turkish i, but I can't easily insert it here).

I have wondered about this for a while.
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« Reply #26 on: January 25, 2011, 17:35:25 PM »

@Bekir,

Thank you for clarifying this for me, bulaka and everyone else. You're performing an invaluable service by notifying us of important information from the Turkish-language forum. Your efforts are appreciated.  Smiley

Well I guess speaking Turkish doesn't help if you don't look in the right places - I am Turkish Smiley Thanks a lot for the info Bekir. Now all I need is just patience.
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« Reply #27 on: January 26, 2011, 08:04:22 AM »

Your efforts are appreciated.  Smiley
Thank you.

Could Bekir or bulaka please explain the meaning of the the terms Kurulan and ,Cali,san?
Kurulan: it has 2 meanings
1. Get dried! (as a command/order to someone) -this is irrelevant to our case-
2. Something which is to be build (stands for "Installable/Installation" CD/DVD)

Calisan: Something/somebody which/who works, studies (stands for "Live" CD/DVD)
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« Reply #28 on: January 26, 2011, 15:52:33 PM »

Kurulan: it has 2 meanings

1. Get dried! (as a command/order to someone) -this is irrelevant to our case-
2. Something which is to be build (stands for "Installable/Installation" CD/DVD)

Calisan: Something/somebody which/who works, studies (stands for "Live" CD/DVD)

Hi, Bekir,

Thanks for the Turkish mini-lesson! Now I can add two more words to my massive, ten-word Turkish vocabulary.  Smiley
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« Reply #29 on: January 26, 2011, 16:09:53 PM »

to my massive, ten-word Turkish vocabulary.  Smiley
that's more than my Turkish vocabulary........
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