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trixon
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« on: December 20, 2011, 23:12:21 PM »

I just read the following post http://armuting.blogspot.com/2011/12/sona-m-yaklasyoruz.html

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TUESDAY 20 DECEMBER 2011
Is the end nearing?
Pardus project made ​​by the administrator, dated November 2 last comment by TUBITAK under the restructuring efforts will be some changes depending on the Pardus project, also was noted.

TUBITAK allocated to the project developers with project staff, and they could not comment because of confidentiality agreements, and not in an official statement yet on the future of the project is not known what kind of changes.

The most recent publication Pozitif.tv Gokmen Goksel participating developers, individual version of Pardus 2012 is scheduled to run 2013 individual version of the end of 2012 will not be told. However, such long-term plans old Pardus users tutturulamadığını never know:)

In recent days, the individual versions of the project will no longer publish your only enterprise versions on its way it was spoken in some lists. This is the individual version of Pardus 2011 and will remain as a means of individual users will be farewell.

Official statements to the eyes of everyone these days.

http://translate.google.se/translate?sl=tr&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=sv&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Farmuting.blogspot.com%2F2011%2F12%2Fsona-m-yaklasyoruz.html

Is it time for us to go distro hopping once again?
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« Reply #1 on: December 21, 2011, 08:44:22 AM »

What do you mean "hopping"?
As I see, no more new packages in "testing" repository.
Pardus 2012 will be ... only corporate?
How can 3 developers stop and kill the distro, we all like?
We don't want to see something like this:
http://design.canonical.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/cof_orange_hex1.png
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« Reply #2 on: December 21, 2011, 08:49:48 AM »

Guys, What is this?

I could not make any head or tail out of this  Huh?

Can someone put in easier language.

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« Reply #3 on: December 21, 2011, 08:55:01 AM »

I am doing my best (with the help of others) to clear things up in the following post: http://forum.pardususer.de/index.php?topic=2460.0
(http://translate.google.com/ does a much better job in handling DE than TR)
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« Reply #4 on: December 21, 2011, 09:05:32 AM »

As I understood, 3 (or 4?) main developers have left the project and now
Pardus 2011.2 will be the last version of Pardus Linux for desktops.
We are waiting for official comments from Scientific & Technological Research Council of Turkey.

By the way, look at new terrible design of the official site:
http://www.pardus.org.tr/en/
It looks like a bad joke.
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John A
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« Reply #5 on: December 21, 2011, 09:29:13 AM »

I am not suprised if that is thrue. Not much information of the future plans for Pardus.
But it started a long time ago, like when they just removed Tasma for Pardus 2009:
http://liste.pardus.org.tr/pardus-devel/2009-May/001003.html
Was a intensive debate on the Pardus developer list about that.
(In my own opinion Tasma was one of the best Pardus features)

Non existing marketing/commercial to make it larger etc..
A goal to be among the top ten in Distrowatch would not be wrong.
So they have themselfes to blaim if it is to small to survive in the long run.

I guess a similar situation as Mandriva when the developers go away from there to start Mageia.
I have my doubt if just a corporate version could survive.
Even in Turkey the Corporate version are no sucess among companys etc..

But if only 3 developers have left the project, whats the big deal?
Why not employ new ones. And get the community more involved to.
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« Reply #6 on: December 21, 2011, 09:44:48 AM »

Well, after reading reviews (something like 9/10)
and from my own point of view Pardus has only
2-3 problems:
1. Its package-manager design is not good enough.
2. And, of course, too few packages (compare to
top 10).
After resolving these problems, Pardus can
be in top 10 without any problems, I think.
So, I don't understand:
employ 3-4 developers and 3-4 maintainers and
the goal will be reached.  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #7 on: December 21, 2011, 09:47:48 AM »

I think this is a problem for Linux in general:
http://www.itworld.com/it-managementstrategy/192173/will-linux-miss-its-big-desktop-shot

Statistic:
http://gs.statcounter.com/#os-ww-monthly-201011-201111

Not growing. And I getting tired of "distro hopping" to.
So if Pardus going down I will continue with Windows 7 for full time. Wink
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« Reply #8 on: December 21, 2011, 09:57:24 AM »

Pardus is going down, because it was stopped
by developers and maintainers.
It is the only reason.
A friend of me has created a new site about
Pardus (it is not 100% finished, but almost).
So, what...  Huh?
Another "mageia"?

And the last moment: KDE 4.7.4 is here,
KDE 4.8 is a stable (for beta) nice-looking DE.
I don't know about the world, but in Russia
Linux is becoming really popular.
(May be you have heard about "national OS").

Pardus is much better than this "national OS".
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AJSH
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« Reply #9 on: December 21, 2011, 10:09:17 AM »

I will continue with Windows 7 for full time.

Hi John A,

that I will do also, if Pardus real go down.

Regards
AJSH
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« Reply #10 on: December 21, 2011, 10:19:13 AM »

I will continue with Windows 7 for full time.

Hi John A,

that I will do also, if Pardus real go down.

Regards
AJSH

Hi all again
I hope, managers from TÜBİTAK will read this.
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« Reply #11 on: December 21, 2011, 11:03:21 AM »

When Pardus stops one only can choose from the very big ones if one does not want to encounter similar phenomenons a couple of years later. There are so many distributions with a relatively small development team, thus the risk of ending up is great.

If this would be the case I guess I would go back to OpenSuSE, since Fedora is more Gnome based and Ubuntu as well and I always felt more confortable with native KDE distro 's but that's just a matter of personal taste.

I always felt Open SuSE and the previous SuSE were too "big" as default install components concern, for a beginner you hardly knew what all these services and servers you could edit in the Preferences settings really meant. However a big advantage is that OpenSuSE like the Buntu's and Fedora have lots of software packages available.

Somehow sad news...this thread...but as it never expanded actively beyond Turkey...it would not fully surprise me at all if Pardus vanishes from the desktop in time..it's a pity
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« Reply #12 on: December 21, 2011, 11:22:02 AM »

When Pardus stops one only can choose from the very big ones if one does not want to encounter similar phenomenons a couple of years later. There are so many distributions with a relatively small development team, thus the risk of ending up is great.

If this would be the case I guess I would go back to OpenSuSE, since Fedora is more Gnome based and Ubuntu as well and I always felt more confortable with native KDE distro 's but that's just a matter of personal taste.

I always felt Open SuSE and the previous SuSE were too "big" as default install components concern, for a beginner you hardly knew what all these services and servers you could edit in the Preferences settings really meant. However a big advantage is that OpenSuSE like the Buntu's and Fedora have lots of software packages available.

Somehow sad news...this thread...but as it never expanded actively beyond Turkey...it would not fully surprise me at all if Pardus vanishes from the desktop in time..it's a pity

Have you heard about PCLinuxOS? I think, you have. It was made by 1 man. And it is #7 now, so I thinkg it will never die. I don't know how many people are in PCLinuxOS's team now, but it has over 13000 packages (compare to Pardus).
The main problem of Pardus - it has no promotion. And few packages.
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« Reply #13 on: December 21, 2011, 11:25:16 AM »

I hope everything remains stable as I just installed it on a friend's PC with a lot of praise for it  Smiley

3 or 4 devs leaving should not be an issue, especially if this is being sponsored by a govt entity.

I am definitely NOT going to Windows, come what may! Windows is one of the worst OSes on this planet.  Wink
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« Reply #14 on: December 21, 2011, 11:29:12 AM »

I hope everything remains stable as I just installed it on a friend's PC with a lot of praise for it  Smiley

3 or 4 devs leaving should not be an issue, especially if this is being sponsored by a govt entity.

I am definitely NOT going to Windows, come what may! Windows is one of the worst OSes on this planet.  Wink
+1 Smiley The same here. We are still going to promote Pardus in Russia.
News like "alpha", "beta", "pre" and so on + more packages + bugfixing and
Pardus is in top 20 Smiley
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