More Screen Resolutions Needed [PENDING]

[MusicLover]

I'm currently having issues with choosing a higher resolution than the ones I've been given at install of Pardus. Same issues with Ubuntu.

Would be great if a larger list of resolutions, like in Windows, was available. Having to create/edit xorg.conf isn't the best way to attract new users to Linux away from Windows.

[Anglo]

Have you tried KRandRTray ?
When invoked , it exists on Systray.

"Would be great if a larger list of resolutions, like in Windows, was available. Having to create/edit xorg.conf isn't the best way to attract new users to Linux away from Windows."

I remember having to manully edit "REGISTRY" for things that Windows itself couldn't handle, I figure I'm much better off.........

You may wish to read this : http://www.tuxradar.com/content/modify-xorgconf-better-performance

[MusicLover]

Have you tried KRandRTray ?
When invoked , it exists on Systray.

"Would be great if a larger list of resolutions, like in Windows, was available. Having to create/edit xorg.conf isn't the best way to attract new users to Linux away from Windows."

I remember having to manully edit "REGISTRY" for things that Windows itself couldn't handle, I figure I'm much better off.........

You may wish to read this : http://www.tuxradar.com/content/modify-xorgconf-better-performance

KRandRTray only lists the same resolutions seen in system settings / monitors

Windows just requires a right-click and choose display setting and you've got a ready-made slider bar that will throw up every resolution possible. This is the only feature in Windows they've got right when it comes to post-install setup!

[Anglo]

"KRandRTray only lists the same resolutions seen in system settings / monitors"

So I just discouvered , my apology

"Windows just requires a right-click and choose display setting and you've got a ready-made slider bar that will throw up every resolution possible. This is the only feature in Windows they've got right when it comes to post-install setup!"

agreed

[atolboo]

...  and you've got a ready-made slider bar that will throw up every resolution possible.

This is rather dangerous as it can also harm the electronics in the monitor when it's not equipped with a safety switch to prevent resolutions outside it's specifications.

[Anglo]

...  and you've got a ready-made slider bar that will throw up every resolution possible.

This is rather dangerous as it can also harm the electronics in the monitor when it's not equipped with a safety switch to prevent resolutions outside it's specifications.

That's actually a quote from MusicLover.

[Anglo]

I'm currently having issues with choosing a higher resolution than the ones I've been given at install of Pardus. Same issues with Ubuntu.

Interesting discussion on the ubuntu forum you had , I'll have to play xrandx myself.
 May I see a copy of your systems generated xorg.conf ?

[Anglo]

 I also had the same problem as you ,MusicLover, but no more.
Now I can have resolutions from 320x240 up to 1600x1200.
But try as I could , I could not get Pardus to generate a xorg.conf , that would work at native monitor resolutions and frequecies.
 So I cheated , and booted with knoppix ( ver 6.4.4 ) on the SAME computer, mounted the hard drive and copied the virtual xorg.conf to the "real" hard drive.
Then did small editing to select the HorizonalSync and VRefresh frequencis, ( I selected the middle ground, a xouple of other small options and when it proved to work , I THEN used the propriety chipset software (nvidia in my case ) to finalize the setup.
For me this is a win.
I'll continue with this setup and let you know if there are any further developements.

Anglo

[MusicLover]

 I also had the same problem as you ,MusicLover, but no more.
Now I can have resolutions from 320x240 up to 1600x1200.
But try as I could , I could not get Pardus to generate a xorg.conf , that would work at native monitor resolutions and frequecies.
 So I cheated , and booted with knoppix ( ver 6.4.4 ) on the SAME computer, mounted the hard drive and copied the virtual xorg.conf to the "real" hard drive.
Then did small editing to select the HorizonalSync and VRefresh frequencis, ( I selected the middle ground, a xouple of other small options and when it proved to work , I THEN used the propriety chipset software (nvidia in my case ) to finalize the setup.
For me this is a win.
I'll continue with this setup and let you know if there are any further developements.

Anglo

Sounds interesting. I'll keep watching here and look into this 'knoppix'.....

[Alexey]

Videocard? Monitor?

where this information

[MusicLover]

Videocard? Monitor?

where this information

System board: http://uk.msi.com/product/mb/G41M-P28.html

- Integrated Intel Graphics Media Accelerator (Intel® GMA X4500)

Monitor: CTX LCD monitor. Model S961A: http://www.lcdnfo.com/html/CTX_S961A-lcd-monitor.html

[Anglo]

Sounds interesting. I'll keep watching here and look into this 'knoppix'.....

Knoppix live dvd can be found here : http://www.knoppix.net/

[MusicLover]

I'm currently having issues with choosing a higher resolution than the ones I've been given at install of Pardus. Same issues with Ubuntu.

Interesting discussion on the ubuntu forum you had , I'll have to play xrandx myself.
 May I see a copy of your systems generated xorg.conf ?

I'm doing a fresh install of Pardus but here are copies of suggested xorg.conf files:

Section "ServerFlags"
EndSection

Section "Device"
    Identifier  "VideoCard"
    Option  "Monitor-VGA" "Monitor[VGA]"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
    Identifier  "Screen"
    Device  "VideoCard"
EndSection

Section "ServerLayout"
    Identifier  "Layout"
    Screen  "Screen"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
    Identifier  "Monitor[VGA]"
    Option  "PreferredMode" "1280x1024"
    Option  "Enable" "true"
EndSection

===========================================================

Section "ServerFlags"
EndSection

Section "Device"
    Identifier  "VideoCard"
    Option  "Monitor-default" "Monitor[default]"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
    Identifier  "Screen"
    Device  "VideoCard"
    Monitor "Monitor[default]"
    SubSection "Display"
        Modes   "1280x1024" "800x600" "640x480"
    EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "ServerLayout"
    Identifier  "Layout"
    Screen  "Screen"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
    Identifier  "Monitor[default]"
    Option  "PreferredMode" "1280x1024"
    Option  "Enable" "true"
EndSection
===========================================================

Section "ServerFlags"
EndSection

Section "Device"
    Identifier  "VideoCard"
    Option  "Monitor-default" "Monitor[default]"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
    Identifier  "Screen"
    Device  "VideoCard"
    Monitor "Monitor[default]"
EndSection

Section "ServerLayout"
    Identifier  "Layout"
    Screen  "Screen"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
    Identifier  "Monitor[default]"
    VendorName  "Generic"
    ModelName   "LCD Panel 1280x1024"
    HorizSync   31.5-64.0
    VertRefresh 56.0-65.0
    Option  "Enable" "true"
EndSection
=============================================================

[Anglo]

"I'm doing a fresh install of Pardus but here are copies of suggested xorg.conf files:"

Ooookaayy
I'll give you samples of how things went for me.
The file names will tell you how they can to be.
you'll see the differences, Until this weekend I had no idea how far X11 had progressed  (but still a s.o.b.), Point in case :

Pardus Xorg.conf
Section "ServerFlags"
EndSection

Section "Device"
    Identifier  "VideoCard"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
    Identifier  "Screen"
    Device  "VideoCard"
EndSection

Section "ServerLayout"
    Identifier  "Layout"
    Screen  "Screen"
EndSection

==========================================
Knoppix generated Xorg.conf
Section "ServerFlags"
   Option "AllowMouseOpenFail"  "true"
   Option   "DPMS"   "true"
   
EndSection

Section "Files"
   ModulePath   "/usr/lib/xorg/modules"
   FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc:unscaled"
   FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi:unscaled"
   FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi:unscaled"
   FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1"
   FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/X11/Speedo"
   FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/X11/PEX"
# Additional fonts: Locale, Gimp, TTF...
   FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic"
#   FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/X11/latin2/75dpi"
#   FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/X11/latin2/100dpi"
# True type and type1 fonts are also handled via xftlib, see /etc/X11/XftConfig!
   FontPath     "/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType"
   FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/truetype"
   FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/latex-ttf-fonts"
EndSection

Section "Module"
# Comments: see http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=346408
   Load  "dbe" # Double Buffering Extension, very important.
   Load  "dri" # This shouldn't be available choice if user has selected driver vga, vesa or nv.
   Load  "glx" # GLX Extension.
   Load  "freetype" # Freetype fonts.
   Load  "type1"  # Type 1 fonts
   Load  "record" # Developer extension, usually not needed
   Load  "extmod" # This is okay, but if you look into "man xorg.conf" you'll find option NOT to include DGA extension with extmod, and for a good reason.. DGA causes instability as it accesses videoram without consulting X about it.
   SubSection      "extmod"
      Option          "omit xfree86-dga"
   EndSubSection
#   Load  "speedo" # Speedo fonts, this module doesn't exist in Xorg 7.0.17
# The following are deprecated/unstable/unneeded in Xorg 7.0
#       Load  "ddc"  # ddc probing of monitor, this should be never present, as it gets automatically loaded.
#   Load  "GLcore" # This should be never present, as it gets automatically loaded.
#       Load  "bitmap" # Should be never present, as it gets automatically loaded. This is a font module, and loading it in xorg.conf makes X try to load it twice.
EndSection

Section "Extensions"
   # compiz needs Composite, but it can cause bad (end even softreset-resistant)
   # effects in some graphics cards, especially nv.
   Option "Composite" "Disable"
EndSection




# Monitor section auto-generated by KNOPPIX mkxorgconfig

Section "Monitor"
   Identifier   "Monitor0"
   ModelName    "Generic Monitor"
#   HorizSync    28.0 - 78.0 # Warning: This may fry very old Monitors
#   HorizSync    28.0 - 96.0 # Warning: This may fry old Monitors
#   VertRefresh  50.0 - 76.0 # Very conservative. May flicker.
#   VertRefresh  50.0 - 60.0 # Extreme conservative. Will flicker. TFT default.
       
   
   Option "MonitorLayout" "LVDS,AUTO"

EndSection


Section "Device"
   ### Available Driver options are:-
# sw_cursor is needed for some ati and radeon cards
        #Option     "sw_cursor"
        #Option     "hw_cursor"
        #Option     "NoAccel"
        #Option     "ShowCache"
        #Option     "ShadowFB"
        #Option     "UseFBDev"
        #Option     "Rotate"
   Identifier  "Card0"
      # Specified driver (chipset)
   Driver      "nouveau"
   VendorName  "All"
   BoardName   "All"
#   BusID       "PCI:1:0:0"

# compiz, beryl 3D-Support with DRI & Composite
   Option "XAANoOffscreenPixmaps"
   Option "AllowGLXWithComposite" "true"
   Option "EnablePageFlip" "true"
   Option "TripleBuffer" "true"

# Tweaks for the xorg 7.4 (otherwise broken) "intel" driver
#   Option "Tiling" "no"
   Option "Legacy3D" "false"
   

# These two lines are (presumably) needed to prevent fonts from being scrambled
        Option  "XaaNoScanlineImageWriteRect" "true"
        Option  "XaaNoScanlineCPUToScreenColorExpandFill" "true"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
   Identifier "Screen0"
   Device     "Card0"
   Monitor    "Monitor0"
   
   Option "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "true"
   Option "DisableGLXRootClipping" "true"
   SubSection "Display"
      Depth     1
      
   EndSubSection
   SubSection "Display"
      Depth     4
      
   EndSubSection
   SubSection "Display"
      Depth     8
      
   EndSubSection
   SubSection "Display"
      Depth     15
      
   EndSubSection
   SubSection "Display"
      Depth     16
      
   EndSubSection
   SubSection "Display"
      Depth     24
      
   EndSubSection
   SubSection "Display"
      Depth     32
      
   EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "DRI"
   Mode 0666
EndSection
====================================
Knoppix+Nvidia Xorg.conf
# nvidia-settings: X configuration file generated by nvidia-settings
# nvidia-settings:  version 280.13  (root@2011-testing-farm32)  Thu Sep  8 18:43:18 EEST 2011

# nvidia-xconfig: X configuration file generated by nvidia-xconfig
# nvidia-xconfig:  version 280.13  (root@2011-testing-farm32)  Thu Sep  8 17:45:56 EEST 2011
# /etc/X11/xorg.conf
# Created by KNOPPIX # Delete this line if you don't want KNOPPIX to overwrite your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
# Monitor section auto-generated by KNOPPIX mkxorgconfig

Section "ServerLayout"

   # Since evdev, manual keyboard/mice entries are mostly ignored:
   # Keyboard auto-probed
   # Touchpad auto-probed
   # USB mouse auto-probed
   # Serial Mouse auto-probed
### AIGLX for compiz 3D-Support with DRI & Composite
### This option doesn't hurt even if it's not supported by the individual card
    Identifier     "XFree86 Configured"
    Screen      0  "Screen0" 0 0
    InputDevice    "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
    InputDevice    "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
    Option         "AIGLX" "true"
    Option         "Xinerama" "0"
EndSection

Section "Files"

# Additional fonts: Locale, Gimp, TTF...
#   FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/X11/latin2/75dpi"
#   FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/X11/latin2/100dpi"
# True type and type1 fonts are also handled via xftlib, see /etc/X11/XftConfig!
    ModulePath      "/usr/lib/xorg/modules"
    FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc:unscaled"
    FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi:unscaled"
    FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi:unscaled"
    FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1"
    FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/X11/Speedo"
    FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/X11/PEX"
    FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic"
    FontPath        "/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType"
    FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/truetype"
    FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/latex-ttf-fonts"
EndSection

Section "Module"

# Comments: see http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=346408
#   Load  "speedo" # Speedo fonts, this module doesn't exist in Xorg 7.0.17
# The following are deprecated/unstable/unneeded in Xorg 7.0
#       Load  "ddc"  # ddc probing of monitor, this should be never present, as it gets automatically loaded.
#   Load  "GLcore" # This should be never present, as it gets automatically loaded.
#       Load  "bitmap" # Should be never present, as it gets automatically loaded. This is a font module, and loading it in xorg.conf makes X try to load it twice.
    Load           "dbe" # Double Buffering Extension, very important.
    Load           "glx" # GLX Extension.
    Load           "freetype" # Freetype fonts.
    Load           "type1"  # Type 1 fonts
    Load           "record" # Developer extension, usually not needed
    Load           "extmod" # This is okay, but if you look into "man xorg.conf" you'll find option NOT to include DGA extension with extmod, and for a good reason.. DGA causes instability as it accesses videoram without consulting X about it.
    SubSection     "extmod"
        Option         "omit xfree86-dga"
    EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "ServerFlags"
    Option         "AllowMouseOpenFail" "true"
    Option         "DPMS" "true"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"

    # generated from default
    Identifier     "Keyboard0"
    Driver         "keyboard"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"

    # generated from data in "/etc/conf.d/gpm"
    Identifier     "Mouse0"
    Driver         "mouse"
    Option         "Protocol" "IMPS/2"
    Option         "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
    Option         "Emulate3Buttons" "no"
    Option         "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"

 # Warning: This may fry very old Monitors
#      HorizSync    28.0 - 96.0 # Warning: This may fry old Monitors
 # Very conservative. May flicker.
#   VertRefresh  50.0 - 60.0 # Extreme conservative. Will flicker. TFT default.
    Identifier     "Monitor0"
    VendorName     "Unknown"
    ModelName      "CRT-0"
    HorizSync       28.0 - 78.0
    VertRefresh     50.0 - 76.0
    Option         "MonitorLayout" "LVDS,AUTO"
EndSection

Section "Device"

   ### Available Driver options are:-
# sw_cursor is needed for some ati and radeon cards
    Identifier     "Card0"
    Driver         "nvidia"
    VendorName     "All"
    BoardName      "All"
    Option         "sw_cursor"
        #Option     "hw_cursor"
        #Option     "NoAccel"
    Option         "ShowCache"
    Option         "ShadowFB"
    Option         "UseFBDev"
        #Option     "Rotate"
      # Specified driver (chipset)
#   BusID       "PCI:1:0:0"
# compiz, beryl 3D-Support with DRI & Composite
#   Option "Tiling" "no"
EndSection

Section "Device"
    Identifier     "Device0"
    VendorName     "NVIDIA Corporation"
    BoardName      "GeForce 6150 LE"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
    Identifier     "Screen0"
    Device         "Device0"
    Monitor        "Monitor0"
    DefaultDepth    24
    Option         "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "true"
    Option         "DisableGLXRootClipping" "true"
    Option         "XAANoOffscreenPixmaps"
    Option         "AllowGLXWithComposite" "true"
    Option         "EnablePageFlip" "true"
    Option         "TripleBuffer" "true"
# Tweaks for the xorg 7.4 (otherwise broken) "intel" driver
    Option         "Legacy3D" "false"
# These two lines are (presumably) needed to prevent fonts from being scrambled
    Option         "XaaNoScanlineImageWriteRect" "true"
    Option         "XaaNoScanlineCPUToScreenColorExpandFill" "true"
    Option         "TwinView" "0"
    Option         "TwinViewXineramaInfoOrder" "CRT-0"
    Option         "metamodes" "1400x1050_60 +0+0"
    SubSection     "Display"
        Depth       24
    EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "Extensions"

   # compiz needs Composite, but it can cause bad (end even softreset-resistant)
   # effects in some graphics cards, especially nv.
    Option         "Composite" "Disable"
EndSection

Anglo

[MusicLover]

Tried pasting the second xorg.conf but it hung the machine! Will try the other one next.

Having major problems finding a version of Knoppix that'll work. Downloaded both DVD and CD versions and put them onto a usb drive and nothing happened. USB drive in perfect working order.

This is going to take some time!