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acjohnson
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« Reply #15 on: January 29, 2012, 15:43:47 PM »

I have created a Google Doc that will be used to collect potential contributor information.

If you are interested in contributing to the future of Pardus as a community then please fill out this form to the best of your ability.

Keeping the form in English is preferable but if you are unable to write in English then that is okay, all form submissions are welcome!

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?hl=en_US&formkey=dC1mZm12b1laYlZpTzYySjZzQllYT1E6MQ

Please copy and paste this link on any forum that you'd like in order to spread the word about Pardus and this community effort.
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« Reply #16 on: January 29, 2012, 15:58:53 PM »

Please copy and paste this link on any forum that you'd like in order to spread the word about Pardus and this community effort.
Like THIS Wink
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« Reply #17 on: January 29, 2012, 16:14:43 PM »

Thank you atolboo Smiley
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« Reply #18 on: January 29, 2012, 17:30:39 PM »

Count me in, but I tried facebook and didn't like it so I dropped it.  I plan on signing up with AnyBeat  They seem to respect one's privacy much better.
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« Reply #19 on: January 29, 2012, 18:16:27 PM »

Count me in, but I tried facebook and didn't like it so I dropped it.  I plan on signing up with AnyBeat  They seem to respect one's privacy much better.

Excellent Lisa- I don't know if the Facebook group will be a permanent home but we have many channels for communication.
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« Reply #20 on: January 29, 2012, 18:37:03 PM »

It looks that there is for the first time a kind of official response on a post on the
mailing list.

Gökhan Özbulak (i do not know if he is a developer of Pardus, but i think he is)
give a reaction on the post that Selim did.

He also talk about that we must wait till the end of march, and tll that time we need
to support the developers who are left at TUBITAK.
I send some response back, part of the response is personal, and i hope that the
people at TUBITAK who make the rules and orders give a reaction on it. And that
they take the community serious, and will see the power of Pardus.

http://lists.pardus.org.tr/pardus-devel/2012-January/002367.html
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« Reply #21 on: January 29, 2012, 21:25:07 PM »

Also THIS to help/increase the DE community involvement.

And my current opinion is the same as LinuxFanatic
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Wenn sich bei TÜBITAK nichts mehr tut, dann wird es früher oder später sowieso einen Fork geben.
Aber noch sollten wir ich verfrüht überall sofort mitmachen.
I short: I think it's better to wait for the outcome at TÜBITAK and continue from that.
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« Reply #22 on: January 29, 2012, 22:17:44 PM »

So we're supposed to sit around and wait? At a minimum we need to build our defenses and resources. Show TUBITAK how many people are wanting to be involved in a community maintained Pardus.

They act like waiting is no big deal but in the real world, we cannot trust using completely unsupported software. MANY users will abandon Pardus out of fear if nothing happens soon. Maybe that is what TUBITAK is wanting...

Right now many have signed our community commitment form:
(https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?hl=en_US&formkey=dC1mZm12b1laYlZpTzYySjZzQllYT1E6MQ)

...and according to our friends on Facebook we have a server on the way from the Pardus Users Association (http://www.pkd.org.tr/) that will be set up as a build farm. I believe their goal is to work with TUBITAK as well (as much as possible) to arrange some sort of agreement to continue Pardus as it is (without an official fork) but, if TUBITAK is unwilling then Pardus will be forked by the community.

So, we do not wait. We aid others who are willing to work with us. I think this means we need to get a new repo online with updates and bug fixes while we wait. We will need a bug tracker as well (redmine would work really well for this actually).

Right now I have been talking with Hamit Giray Nart who is helping with communication in organizing this build farm.

Also, I am still interested in working out of github if the above plan does not succeed in the end. Since Ozan does not respond to our messages we can still fork his github with a click of a button.
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« Reply #23 on: January 30, 2012, 08:30:43 AM »

It looks that there is for the first time a kind of official response on a post on the
mailing list.

Gökhan Özbulak (i do not know if he is a developer of Pardus, but i think he is)
give a reaction on the post that Selim did.

He also talk about that we must wait till the end of march, and tll that time we need
to support the developers who are left at TUBITAK.
I send some response back, part of the response is personal, and i hope that the
people at TUBITAK who make the rules and orders give a reaction on it. And that
they take the community serious, and will see the power of Pardus.

http://lists.pardus.org.tr/pardus-devel/2012-January/002367.html

Gökhan Özbulak responded

anglo
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« Reply #24 on: January 30, 2012, 08:41:27 AM »

Thank you anglo. Also, if some of you don't already know this, here is where the vast majority of the Turkish community is speaking regarding the current the life or death of Pardus:

http://lists.pardus.org.tr/pardus-camia/2012-January/date.html

You can try to read using google translate... Also here is where you can subscribe:

http://lists.pardus.org.tr/mailman/listinfo/pardus-camia
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« Reply #25 on: January 30, 2012, 09:03:43 AM »

  >My contribution< as LinuxFanatic (LF) is the owner of PardusUser.de.

This ^^^ one is new to me.

And LinuxFanatic can also (being TR-born and moved to Austria/Österreich at age 6) much better understand what is going on at Pardus-Camia Arşivleri as he reads/speaks the TR/DE/EN language.
(TR is the cause of a real language barrier.)
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« Reply #26 on: January 30, 2012, 15:52:13 PM »

Latest from Pardus-

http://lists.pardus.org.tr/pardus-devel/2012-January/002372.html

So they are going to remove the repositories? This message is very vague... It sounds like they will erase any new commits that are made to devel... What the heck does this mean? They've never removed an old repo from their servers in the past...
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« Reply #27 on: January 30, 2012, 16:00:44 PM »

sounds like a .deb freeze
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atolboo
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« Reply #28 on: January 30, 2012, 16:13:52 PM »

What the heck does this mean?
This means they did remove the directory where the build files for the testing department are stored.
Look in https://svn.pardus.org.tr/pardus/2011/
The equivalent for corporate2 is https://svn.pardus.org.tr/pardus/corporate2/
And after two weeks it will show up in https://svn.pardus.org.tr/pardus/tags/
That's all that is going to happen as far as I know.
And maybe it's already in https://svn.pardus.org.tr/pardus/tags/2011-EOL/  Huh?
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« Reply #29 on: January 30, 2012, 16:18:28 PM »

End user since Pardus 2007, and I don't believe this could be the end of such a good Open Source project.
I don't have time nor knowledge nor money to tribute a lot to a fork or whatever, but want everybody to know I'm very gratefull to use Pardus and always will be, thanks to you guys.
Whatever action you take to keep Pardus going, you can count on my moral support.
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