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« on: May 09, 2012, 13:56:26 PM »

Hey everyone,

The last couple of weeks i look around in Linux land. Tried so many distros and even did a step back to Windows and OSX. But the truth is ..... is miss Pardus.

So how is it with Pardus? The workshops are over, and what is the news?
The list of Aaron, pardususer.de or spanish and russian friends.

Is there some way or signal that there will be new Pardus? I wish i could create a Pardus disto, but i dunno where and how to start.

So what is the status of Pardus?
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« Reply #1 on: May 09, 2012, 15:24:44 PM »

  here.
And I have my reservations about this ^^^.
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« Reply #2 on: May 09, 2012, 15:25:45 PM »

Mmmm ... allways funny to reply on you own post.

Was looking at PCLinuxOS 12.02 , and they still use kernel 2.6.38 and KDE 4.6.5 ...

So got an idea for Pardus 2012:

- Maybe someone with kernel knowledge can update the current Pardus kernel 2.6.37 to 2.6.38 (and thsi will be avaliable in the pardususer repo)
- Maybe someone can do some KDE 4.6.5fixes (if there are any) (and this will be avaliable in the pardususer repo)
- Software updates in the pardususer repo

Then someone need to make a new ISO ... and the new Pardus is born.

Sounds good or not?
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« Reply #3 on: May 09, 2012, 15:31:44 PM »

here.
And I have my reservations about this ^^^.

And about my other idea? Kernel update, kde fixes, software updates?
Easier to create and after that there is more time to think about 3.x kernel, KDE 4.8, etc ...

And the facebook group is not a good way to communicate. Is it possible to update this forum?
So there can be new members etc?
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« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2012, 16:11:22 PM »

Was looking at PCLinuxOS 12.02 , and they still use kernel 2.6.38 and KDE 4.6.5 ...
That's ^^^is rather old.

My tip: Also test-ride  Mageia cauldron kernel-3.3.4 + KDE-4.8 (+ Tainted Release repo after installation).
Up to now a very positive experience Grin

The signs are that they are using kernel-3.2.5 and a number of kde- 4.8.0 packages.

And the facebook group is not a good way to communicate.
I fully agree with this ^^^.
This is one of the reasons of my doubts Wink
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« Reply #5 on: May 09, 2012, 16:40:11 PM »

But i want to use Mageia .. already tried it .. but like Mandrake or Mandriva not like it ...

All i ask:
- Is there a way move on with Pardus as it is now. So first little updates and then time to
think about the future. And this forum to communicate about it Wink
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« Reply #6 on: May 09, 2012, 17:04:16 PM »

But i want to use Mageia .. already tried it .. but like Mandrake or Mandriva not like it ...
Mageia is a community driven fork of Mandriva.
The only disadvantage (up to now) is that not all system configuration tools are concentrated in one place.
This ^^^ is only my opinion.

Is there a way move on with Pardus as it is now.
You can continue using it with the following remark:
The only "little updates" will come from a number of people from pardususer.de.
And when there is no continuation of Pardus by the end of this year, pardususer.de (and it's repo) will close down.
(The payment for the server, till the end of this year, has already been done.)
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« Reply #7 on: May 09, 2012, 20:40:11 PM »

But i want to use Mageia .. already tried it .. but like Mandrake or Mandriva not like it ...

I write it wrong .. i don not want to use Mageia .. not like it ..  

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You can continue using it with the following remark:
The only "little updates" will come from a number of people from pardususer.de.
And when there is no continuation of Pardus by the end of this year, pardususer.de (and it's repo) will close down.
(The payment for the server, till the end of this year, has already been done.)

Close down??? Really?? So the german community also give it up? How much is the payment for a year?
Maybe others here like to continue it .. maybe also the Spanish repo like to join. There is already so much
on pardususer.de that it need to stay here.
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« Reply #8 on: May 09, 2012, 20:42:46 PM »

But how you think about my idea atolboo?

Is it possible to create a Pardus 2012 the same way PCLinuxOS does? Just little
kernel update and stay with KDE 4.6.5.

And after this really make plans to update Pardus to kernel 3.x, etc
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« Reply #9 on: May 09, 2012, 21:04:11 PM »

Close down??? Really?? So the german community also give it up? How much is the payment for a year?
The best thing is to register at pardususer.de and continue this subject there.
You can also write in English there when German is too difficult, and you will be answered in English. Wink

.... Just little kernel update and .....
"Just little kernel update" is not possible.
Kernel update is always a major operation and is far beyond my capabilities.
And to really maintain a distribution requires very skilled folks.
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« Reply #10 on: May 10, 2012, 09:32:28 AM »

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The list of Aaron, pardususer.de or spanish and russian friends.

Our Russian friends  have also been stopped

 
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Soon it will be a year since the last official update Smiley
2011.2 is officially dead.
There is no life anythere.
3000 turkish active members of LKD are just a fake.
They don't do anything.
So, they don't interested in Pardus.
Only several of them are doing something.
About russian version: I was the last russian translator
and I am leaving Smiley
Good luck.

P.S. zypper or urpmi are waiting me Smiley

I am looking for an alternative, Mint and Open Suse like me.

I have also tried Kororaa and Mageia but  they are disappointing for me.
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« Reply #11 on: May 10, 2012, 18:57:14 PM »

 A bit of a random thought here.

For me at any rate, the thing that distinguished Pardus from the rest of the pack was its configuration and management tools. What chance that another KDE distro could take them over and use them?
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« Reply #12 on: May 10, 2012, 22:43:27 PM »

It's a good question, but I don't know the answer. There is an interesting KDE-centric, semi-rolling release distribution I am currently testing, Chakra Linux, whose developpers are working on a new package manager (akabei), but I don't know if pisi would be of any interest for them since it would mean getting rid of all of their hard work.
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« Reply #13 on: May 10, 2012, 23:04:49 PM »

Yes, I'm using Chakra Linux since February and I have to admit that they are doing a great job for the kde integration.
For example, all gtk apps are in a bundle system, so the repositories contains only qt apps. (But you have to check regularly if there are update with the bundle manager :/ )
They have coded some configuration modules for the control center of kde, like grub2 manager, iptables 4/6...
On the other hand, yes, currently, there is no gui for pacman, the package manager, I've had to write a bash script to get some notifications about available update.
I'm on the testing branch and except bugs specific to kde, it's a quite stable distro, and I like there half-rolling release system.
It's seems not rock-solid like Pardus, but, it's simple and easy, like archlinux and Pardus.
I have not found any others kde centric distro better than this one, except Pardus.
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« Reply #14 on: May 10, 2012, 23:20:57 PM »

Les grands esprits se rencontrent, Gyan Wink
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