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« Reply #45 on: May 21, 2012, 22:47:27 PM »

ps.
Yoyo, what theme do you use, and where did you get that background from?


Plasma theme, Amakage: http://koresource.blogspot.com.es/2012/04/amakage-120.html

The wallpaper I made ​​a friend of parduslife, link to my dropbox: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3961429/Pardus_Life_3D.png

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« Reply #46 on: May 22, 2012, 15:55:10 PM »

Yes, nice desktop theme, colours, are very nice, yoyo.

I did as mentioned to try upgrading by adding the pardus-linux-org testing repo, and removing the other repos.   Whether I use  package manager GUI or konsole pisi, the downloads will start, then stop after a couple of minutes.  I've been trying since last night.    I'm now just trying to get the kernel with its dependencies, (pisi it --reinstall kernel ) but that too stalls after a couple minutes go by.   Dial up user.  

P.S.  Now trying to get 184 packages after doing sudo pisi up.  It does stall on kernel with message:
Program terminated.
Could not fetch destination file "h t t p //paketler.pardus-linux.org/pardus/2012/testing/x86_64/kernel-3.2.5-162-p11-x86_64.pisi": [Errno 14] HTTP Error 206 : h t t p //paketler.pardus-linux.org/pardus/2012/testing/x86_64/kernel-3.2.5-162-p11-x86_64.pisi  
P.S.S. having better results downloading kernel 3.2.5-152 using wget as it will retry when connectiion is closed.
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« Reply #47 on: May 22, 2012, 18:49:33 PM »

Hi Lisa,

Maybe with a dailup user it takes a little time. I did not have any problem with the repo ..
But before you upgrade with the anka repo remove these packages:

- module-virtualbox-guest
- module-virtualbox-guest-userspace
- virtualbox-guest-utils

After that upgrade should go easy, but it always depend on your network speed
Oh, and the best way is upgrade on console
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« Reply #48 on: May 22, 2012, 19:17:59 PM »

Thanks. richdb.  I did remove those packages, but I continue to get HTTP Error 206 for the kernel.  I'm using konsole.  I'll go back to getting the rest of it via wget, as even though it has had to retry over 15 times, at least I do not have to sit here and keep an eye on the modem lights to make sure the download continues, wget will do that for me and retry.  I've already got 70% of file.  I've never had this happen before, but did have problems downloading nvidia package a year ago, but in that case, it would always stall at the time point in the download file size, where as in this case, the stall happens after a few minutes, no matter how much of file is partially downloaded.  Almost there.... Wink
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« Reply #49 on: May 22, 2012, 20:28:53 PM »

Hi Lisa,
wikipedia suggests that the 206 is a server side problem , you (or someone else) may be better off checking with the servers admin to verify the file length with its checksumming.
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« Reply #50 on: May 22, 2012, 21:21:47 PM »

..... you (or someone else) may be better off checking with the servers admin to verify the file length with its checksumming.
and
.... but I continue to get HTTP Error 206 for the kernel.

I just did test this the last ~25 minutes with
Code:
sudo pisi rr pardus -y
Code:
sudo pisi rm module-virtualbox-guest module-virtualbox-guest-userspace  virtualbox-guest-utils -y
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atolboo@pardus2011 Documents $ pisi lr
pardus-linux-org [active]
   http://paketler.pardus-linux.org/pardus/2012/testing/x86_64/pisi-index.xml.xz
pardususer.de [active]
   http://pakete.pardususer.de/pardus-2011/x86_64/pisi-index.xml.xz
Code:
sudo pisi up -y
and after installing 183 packages (total ~ 20 minutes) + a restart, the result is..........
(no problem on my side) Grin


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« Reply #51 on: May 22, 2012, 21:55:27 PM »

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atolboo@pardus2011 Documents $ pisi lr
pardus-linux-org [active]
   http://paketler.pardus-linux.org/pardus/2012/testing/x86_64/pisi-index.xml.xz
pardususer.de [active]
   http://pakete.pardususer.de/pardus-2011/x86_64/pisi-index.xml.xz
Code:
sudo pisi up -y
and after installing 183 packages (total ~ 20 minutes) + a restart, the result is..........
(no problem on my side) Grin

Thank you sir, can not argue with results.

EDIT: Having played with the servers, I find both of them terribly slow ,high latancey , at least to North America ,are there a closer / better connected mirror?
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« Reply #52 on: May 23, 2012, 02:21:00 AM »

I figured it had something to do with server not liking slow connections.  I doubt it is on my side, but probably the server(s) the packages are kept.  I have no problems downloading small sized packages, but those that take + or - 12 minutes or longer stall, saying an updated version is probably available, so I then use wget to get them.  Tedious.  I'm getting there, but at this point I don't want to restart my computer as I haven't gotten all of the packages.  I have so far gotten the kernel and its dependencies and then got baselayout and then tried installing kdebase and its dependecies, but there are some conflicts with the older packages already installed, so, I'll just have to try and get all updates, instead of major components as I usually do to shorten the dial up time at any given time.  Erser.  Back to watering the plants. 
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« Reply #53 on: May 23, 2012, 09:09:34 AM »

Good luck Smiley And if you got all the packages upgrade should go in a whooooosh
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« Reply #54 on: May 23, 2012, 09:10:58 AM »

Hi Colleauges,

Any of you facing pc heating problem. I have HP 8540w with i5 and nvidia. Not only for the new kde but the old one also.

Is it kde problem?

BR
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« Reply #55 on: May 23, 2012, 09:58:15 AM »

Some update from the Facebook Group:

By Dirse Yalçın:

Especially upon this latest hot debate on language, I spent all night watching Pardus reviews on Youtube. There were wonderful comments from people all around the world, Australia, US, and others. One of them said: "Pardus is currently the best KDE distro around the world":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMFSd0yhMU8
Another said: "Pardus is the best distro for Linux beginners."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GIZUuHUUUU
The American who said the above, has a video about half an hour long, generally on Windows and Linux comparison, and even in such a short time, he speaks about Pardus for several minutes, recommending Pardus as maybe the best Linux distro among hudreds of others. He himself uses two distros, and Pardus is one of them. He even uses Pardus on his TV.
There are lots of wonderful comments especially regarding "Kaptan" and "Pisi".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viEQ-DWxX50
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XRZc5ySaa4
Other reviews are generally very positive:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EZtKPBKTfA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myf_pIANMxs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kItqeVABPiE

To be frank, I felt proud and ashamed at the same time, I felt a great burden of responsibility. I was wrong to think of Pardus as just a "Turkish" distro. Now, I see that we have a great responsibility towards the whole world.
Therefore, I now agree that foreign language issues must be addressed urgently.
On the other hand, our foreign friends should allow us some time:
- After TUBITAK neglected Pardus, it is now understood that only the Pardus-Linux Org (ANKA) group here, has taken and carried the flag properly. This is almost unprecedented, a big entrepreneurship and volunteerism. Naturally, there are problems as to resources and personnel. This is an interim, restructuring phase. It is only normal that a large and experienced group of translators will take some time to be re-established.
-Everything is about cost-benefit analysis. Distribution of human resources must be rational. Currently, the volunteers most urgently needed are the programmers, developers. It is not rational to force them to spend their valuable time on translation work.
-Those who are not programmers, developers, should focus and devote their time to testing and reporting feedbacks. Those who cannot even do that (like myself Smiley ) can help with the translation work. Earlier, I had promised to make translations and I sometimes do it in this Facebook group, yesterday I made a translation at the PLO forum. I will continue to help out with the translations.
Our heavily wounden patient has just undergone surgery. It is unfair to expect him to get up immediately and start running. First, let him start walking, then he will hopefully run again Smiley
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« Reply #56 on: May 23, 2012, 09:59:31 AM »

Hi Colleauges,

Any of you facing pc heating problem. I have HP 8540w with i5 and nvidia. Not only for the new kde but the old one also.

Is it kde problem?

BR
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Not there, i not really have any heating problems
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« Reply #57 on: May 23, 2012, 20:19:02 PM »

Hi Colleauges,

Any of you facing pc heating problem. I have HP 8540w with i5 and nvidia. Not only for the new kde but the old one also.

Is it kde problem?

BR
Murat

Does this overheating happen in console mode ( single user ) ?
A forum that may help------   http://forum.notebookreview.com/hp-business-class-notebooks/457570-hp-elitebook-8540w-owners-lounge-213.html
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« Reply #58 on: May 23, 2012, 22:29:59 PM »

....... group of translators......
This is to inform that I have done the NL-translations for Pardus up to now.
And intend to continue in the future.
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« Reply #59 on: May 23, 2012, 22:46:33 PM »

Some message on the Facebook Group:

Hasan Ayhan Tekeli To Richard De Bruin (What Nihad Karslı said) :
Hello to Richard and Gielen. There will be a server consigned to us by the official Pardus project. We will be glad to host and support anything (Forum, etc..) you want to do about Pardus. Except for this, you can contact us about anything. All our supporters will be given authority on bugzilla@pardus.org.tr. You just need to inform us.

So it now really looks like the Anka group got support by Turbitak. They now can use the official bugzilla@pardus.org.tr Smiley
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