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« on: June 01, 2012, 23:26:17 PM »

Software that will be available in Pardus-Anka:

http://svn.pardus-linux.org/pardus/2012/
http://svn.pardus-linux.org/pardus/playground


Metalmanbaris and his team:
Development ISO, package-manager, yali, goppi

COMAK team:
Multiple desktop environment (XFCE is already available in svn)

A. ozbek and his team:
KDE construction https://code.google.com/p/kde-48-pisi/

Information, questions and requests:
pisiciftligi@pardus-linux.org and this world-forum
http://worldforum.pardus-linux.nl/index.php#5
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« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2012, 23:53:44 PM »

Let we take a look to all developers/packagers we got:

- Anka team
- Metalmanbaris team
- COMAK team
- A. ozbek team
- pardususer.de team (germany)
- parduslife team (spain)
- pardus-fr team (france)
- worldforum team
- ??

And if we look at Pardus-Anka:

desktop: under the COMAK team except KDE
desktop/kde: under the A. ozbek team
editor: under the Huh?
game: under the Huh?
hardware: under the Huh?
kernel: under the Anka team
multimedia: under the Huh?
network: under the Huh?
office: under the Huh?
programming: under the Huh?
science: under the Huh?
server: under the Huh?
system: under the metalmanbaris team
tex: under the Huh?
util: under the Huh?
X11: under the Huh?

So can we place team on the places of the question marks?
And the other team which i call here, are they ready to help?

Please help complete this list.
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« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2012, 20:29:39 PM »

Let we take a look to all developers/packagers we got:

- pantera's team

im not a team leader  Smiley They can call it anka-team
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« Reply #3 on: June 11, 2012, 08:54:04 AM »

ROADMAP NEWS

After long talking on the facebook group and with some developers from the Anka group, there is finally the first simple roadmap for Anka.

- The Anka group started just with 2 man: pantera and kuftikufti (applause for these guys   Smiley ).
- And the situation is as follows:
  • The Anka group focus now on the preperation of the root file system
  • The Anka group create updates for all the packages that are now avaliable in Pardus
- This will result in a stable x64 and x86 repo that will be the base for new Pardus Anka ISO
- When all this is finished, the focus will be on the formation of a community http://worldforum.pardus-linux.nl/index.php?topic=4390.0

For all translators, there's plenty of work by translating all the translations.xml files, for instructions look over here http://worldforum.pardus-linux.nl/index.php?topic=4378.0

But the coming time the focus is on making of meters!
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« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2012, 10:26:10 AM »

1) COMMUNITY SETUP AND ROADMAP:

If the Anka group has stables repos (x86 and x64) and created the first Pardus Anka repo, it is
time to create the next roadmap and community. Before that time we (worldforum members)
need to look for volunteers for all the positions that are available on this https://docs.google.com/document/d/13zcSKA2wyKKbji7wh2_xWqpltFGchEZShXiVud7EI4c/edit list.

There are some reations back from the newsletter, but the truth is also that Pardus lost many members.
But every volunteer need to place his/her name on this list http://worldforum.pardus-linux.nl/index.php?topic=4377.0

And for a moment to show how well Pardus is, some nice reviews about Pardus 2011, 2009 and reactions on the reviews:
http://cristalinux.blogspot.nl/search?q=pardus

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« Reply #5 on: June 12, 2012, 17:40:29 PM »

..... (x86 and x64)
The appropriate names are: i686 and x86_64 (with reference to this) Grin
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« Reply #6 on: June 14, 2012, 08:43:12 AM »

Thanks Dirse.

But the problem is that we have not enough volunteers (yet?)
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« Reply #7 on: June 17, 2012, 10:41:21 AM »

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1) You (richdbd) should call for volunteers to be on the Endorsement Board ("EndoBe"). Tech-guys like yourself, kuftikufti, pantera, atoolbo, et. al. should be on EndoBe. Approximately 10-20 tech-guys worldwide. EndoBe should be officially formed in 1 (one) month approximately (end of July latest).
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I will send a mail today to all of the tech-guys

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Let's see how dangerous dates, deadlines are

Every distro works with deathlines, so i think they are not that dangerous Wink

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P.S. How many Pardus users in the Netherlands? Approximately? Can you form an association there? Very simple association for now. Legal status is important to draw worldwide attraction.

The dutch forum has 189 members. Only 9 members logged in the last 20 days Sad. Also here a lot of members run away or just are waiting for some new Pardus action Smiley
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« Reply #8 on: June 17, 2012, 12:24:51 PM »

......... a lot of members run away or just are waiting for some new Pardus action Smiley
My opinion is that's important to have a i686 (test) repo as soon as possible Wink
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« Reply #9 on: June 17, 2012, 13:36:50 PM »

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Nihad Karslı said a "roadmap" is dangerous because one can't determine (fix) dates.

Well, generally it is far better to have something to aim for. And in the current particular case of Pardus, I think it is absolutely essential


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Every distro works with deathlines, so i think they are not that dangerous Wink

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The dutch forum has 189 members. Only 9 members logged in the last 20 days . Also here a lot of members run away or just are waiting for some new Pardus action

I think a lot of people have just written Pardus off as too fragmented now, and with a lack of clear and substantial information/direction/leadership, no hope of survival. I think an established roadmap would really make a big difference.


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I will send a mail today to all of the tech-guys

I hope you get some good feedback Rich.


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« Reply #10 on: June 18, 2012, 10:12:03 AM »

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International community will look at 2 things:
1) Who are the members of the Endorsement Board?
2) Are there any technical objections to the new Pardus announced by the Endorsement Board?

1) Good question Dirse, but the 'problem' is that the response I get back is almost minimal. But without agreements nobody can deliver a good job.
2) I think we need good python and kernel developers. I do not know them, but maybe someone else on the WorldForum

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Even nine (9) people can be enough maybe? If you want to form an association in the Netherlands, can I become a member? Basic questions:
1) I am not a Dutch/EU citizen. I have only Turkish citizenship.
2) I don't live (reside, work, study, etc.) in the Netherlands. I don't have any property (asset) there.
Are these problems for me becoming a member to a Dutch association?

I send a mail to all the Dutch Forum Members. But till now no useful comments. And I have no experience with the founding of an association.

But my feeling is that Pardus already lost many users, and that is a bad sign.

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« Reply #11 on: June 18, 2012, 11:23:36 AM »

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I send a mail to all the Dutch Forum Members. But till now no useful comments

If there is a lack of members/interest...

and also,

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IAnd I have no experience with the founding of an association.

What about the guys over at pardususer.de? They are much larger. They also seem pretty skilled and dedicated. Could they take on that role perhaps?
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« Reply #12 on: June 18, 2012, 12:51:55 PM »

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What about the guys over at pardususer.de? They are much larger. They also seem pretty skilled and dedicated. Could they take on that role perhaps?

I wish they did, but it looks they give up the hope (now I am talking about SW and LinuxFanatic)
Follow this discussion from page 23 to 25
http://forum.pardususer.de/index.php?topic=2513.330
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« Reply #13 on: June 18, 2012, 13:24:07 PM »

Hi Guys!
There is a hot news about Pardus. Also shared at Facebook group PisiCiftligi.
It is about the roadmap and said to be explained by tomorrow. Watching with full open eyes.
Take care, go on...

Here is the link :
http://www.technologic.com.tr/pardusun-yol-haritasi-yarin-aciklanacak/

Chicken Tranlation of the News:
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=tr&sl=tr&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.technologic.com.tr%2Fpardusun-yol-haritasi-yarin-aciklanacak%2F
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Bright morning of the Dark night ... Pardus ANKA is a new beginning...
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« Reply #14 on: June 18, 2012, 13:56:16 PM »

Thank you for the item evowinds Smiley

Only if I read it, it right now sounds to 'national' to me ..

But we will see tomorrow ..
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