My vision of Anka

[richdb]

The last days i have been looking around in forums, read Pardus reviews, etc. And one of the points that came back every time is the reason why people love/use Pardus. It is/was a linux distribution that works out-of-the-box. With a very easy install GUI and software that is coupled to each other.

So 90% of the Pardus users expect the same from Anka. They are expecting a cd that they can install very easy with just one videoplayer, musicplayer, textwrite, etc.

And that is what Turbitak did very well. They create a linux distribution where everything was connected. Look at all the patches they made to archieve this. They even create own splashscreen to get this out-of-the-box feeling.

If i read about Anka right now, i see an other kind of vision. I read about one big DVD, Gnome, XFCE, E17 and even Wubi? So a lot of software that is not connected together as one out-of-the-box distribution. But ask yourself, is that what 90% of the Pardus wants or expects. I not think so. And what makes Anka then so special?

So my vision of Anka is to concentrate on what the Pardus users expects. They already expects KDE, and we now need to choose the other software, musicplayer, textwriter, etc. Then we need to release a x64 and x86 CD (maybe livecd inside of it).

And for the other 10% that wants somethng else (packagers and experts), they most of the time take care of themself. They build packages that we can place in the repositoy, and there will be allways a team that continious build packages for the repository.

But stay with what Pardus made specially. Otherwise Anka will be nothing more then all other distros on this planet.

[a.palius]

More packages in Pardus repository/CD/DVD becomes similar to the other distros with more packages, but only in terms of number of packages on CD/DVD/repo. I'll don't switch to other distro by the reason of too much desktop environments on DVD. Would be great to choose which ones I want to install and may be switch rapidly between multiple desktop environments and window manager without logging out like in Hybryde Linux. Would be great to see pisi with orphaned packages management.

And for the other 10% that wants somethng else (packagers and experts), they most of the time take care of themself. They build packages that we can place in the repositoy, and there will be allways a team that continious build packages for the repository.

I'm not sure I understood correctly, but I tried many distros and I switched to pardus though lack of some packages I'm using, so I started to learn pisi packaging and I created packages which I need, so I think packagers don't need disrto with many packages and they think about others and I started to search where I can place my packages to share them.
Pardus doesn't become worse by offering more choices even on one DVD.

[richdb]

And that is what Turbitak did very well. They create a linux distribution where everything was connected. Look at all the patches they made to archieve this. They even create own splashscreen to get this out-of-the-box feeling.

Tubitak spent a lot of time to connect all the software together, so they create patches that for example chatclient use clementine as musicplayer, etc. That is what make Pardus special, because it all works. And the new Anka is just compile and package software without looking at how they are connected together. Then you get just an ordinary distro. And what about Kaptan, Comar, PISI, etc? Who take care about these special Pardus products? Till now nobody in the Anka group.

[saygili]

Hello,

What makes Pardus so special? For me, not the Turkish Language Support. Since I am working for international GSM Company I need to use English.

In this case why I am not using Debian or Ubuntu or Fedora etc.

I am using Pardus, since it is easy to install. GUI is good. Configuration tools are almost perfect.

I use Pardus because of Comar, Yalı, Pisi, Kaptan. I use Pardus because of its good integration with other programs.

The community distribution of Pardus should take care the base architecture of Pardus. Some people say there are not too much packages in Pardus repositories and can we integrate the other distributions repositories like Debian or Fedora.

It is quite normal to have less packages since Debian was evolving more than 14 years. Also how many of packages are we using really? I can say Pardus should continue with its own packages considering stability and perfection. With community there will be lots of people giving support to Pardus. And with one repository we can get rid of  double efforts.

Also the home page of Pardus as Richard said www.pardus.org.tr or www.pardus.org. It can be worldforum.pardus-linux.nl also. But as I said it should be central and everybody should know where to go instead of visiting www.pardus-linux.org or www.ozgurlukicin.org or www.pardus.org.tr or www.pardususer.de etc.

As a result,

1)There should be one repository
2)www.pardus.org to follow as home page but if not possible something else. But there should be one official site to follow.
3)We need to follow only pisi packages to provide stability and ease of use.
4)Pardus should keep its base architecture like, Comar,Pisi,Kaptan,Yalı and good integration with other programs.

Best Regards,

Murat

[saygili]

Richard,

We need to force the groups to keep the basic structure and logic of Pardus.

For me KDE should be the base. Ok there can be other desktops but on other DVDs. I do not want mixture of software in one DVD with too many bugs containing it.

They have to drop the dependencies of desktops. I mean while I am installing one package coming with gnome, It should only install that package not the software coming with gnome or else.

We have to keep the original logic. Otherwise it will loose its beauty.

I do not know whether I could explain or not.

[richdb]

Saygili,

I get your point, and i think the same.
We should work the same way as the original Pardus team.
Only for that we need original papers, roadmaps, team-structure and i hope that Tubitak will give this to the community.
And based on that, the community should make the same kind of structure.