Time will tell

[Anglo]

Since Pardus is dying, ......................... Common sense is all that matters.

Beyond needlessly annoying people who HAVE a reason to be here ,are you filling in space just to see yourself talk , or did you not understand the over-obvious? Not only do people come here to talk about linux , they ALSO come here to talk to friends ( not monopolize the forum ) about music ,and gardens ,birds , pets and families.

Keep behaving the way you are , and #3 will become irrelevant ..........

[jasperodus]

Dirse, I'll stick my neck out here and just say Mageia.

Take care.

[atolboo]

Currently it's Mageia for me

[jasperodus]

Dirse, I'll stick my neck out here and just say Mageia.

Take care.

Thank you jasperodus. I consider us all here a family. A family of Richard Stallman, Linus Torvalds, et alia. So there are no necks at risk within this family. Even as a Turk I am saying Pardus is dying, will die, latest by year end.

So Mageia is a candidate you say. Fine. Feel more free, for the sake of the poll, any other? Up to nine (9) more?

Hi Dirse,

I meant more along the lines of: "...and just say (only) Mageia".

You mentioned a Pardus succsessor, favourite and top ten distros. Well, that's three different categories for me:


1) Favourite, in terms of my personal requirements/preferences.

2) Top 10 in terms of overall merit - but not necessarily what I would use day to day.

3) Pardus successor/replacement/alternative.

Well, there is currently no successor to Pardus and I think that also holds true for replacement as well. As to alternative: while all distros can basically be regarded as alternatives, the criteria is a an alternative distro for someone who has used Pardus as their preferred distro. Therefore, I can only name Mageia.

A (small?) percentage of Pardus users might consider using (among others) something like Mepis or PCLinuxOS. If I had to bet on it though, I would say that a typical ex-Pardus user would probably feel more at home using Mageia - and having made that choice, would be less likely in the long term to be disappointed.

So, I'm not trying to be awkward, and I could come up with a 'top ten' - but in this (somewhat tricky) context "Which other distro is closest to Pardus?". I have 'cut to the chase' (how I see it, anyway).

[daves]

Pardus is a unic distro, not replaceable with other so please don't let the project die

[James T]

Pardus is a unic distro, not replaceable with other so please don't let the project die

I agree there. For me right now I think the best alternative looks like Siduction.

[daves]

For me there is no alternatives. No one distro is at the same level of pardus, only mandriva is at the second  place and slackware at the third place but far away. So anka is dying too?

[Anglo]

So anka is dying too?

I have seen nothing that says that it is dying, even Dirse is hanging in , just in case.

[jasperodus]

So now do we have the following 4 "closest to Pardus"?
Mageia
Mandriva
Siduction
Slackware
What makes them close to Pardus?
Btw, is there any better source to compare distros other than Distrowatch.Com?

Sorry Dirse,

But most definitely not 4 closest! I'm afraid siduction and esp slackware are pretty much polar opposites from Pardus. Mandriva (although 'basis' for Mageia) is not a logical candidate in my opinion.

I will add to my above comments a little later.

[daves]

I have seen nothing that says that it is dying, even Dirse is hanging in , just in case.

i'm very pleased to hear this

even so pardus is pretty unique so a comparison with another distro is very difficult.

[jasperodus]

So now do we have the following 4 "closest to Pardus"?
Mageia
Mandriva
Siduction
Slackware
What makes them close to Pardus?
Btw, is there any better source to compare distros other than Distrowatch.Com?

Sorry Dirse,

But most definitely not 4 closest! I'm afraid siduction and esp slackware are pretty much polar opposites from Pardus. Mandriva (although 'basis' for Mageia) is not a logical candidate in my opinion.

I will add to my above comments a little later.

Dirse asked the question: "Which distro is closest to Pardus?".

Pardus was all about ease of use, overall design and stability. All of the custom tools and design elements were born out of a principle of ease of use.

So, a 'typical' Pardus user will (hopefully) appreciate its technical aspects, which result in Pardus being an 'it just works' distro (and allows it to stay out of the way).

Mandrake was the original 'friendly' distro. Mandrake was created in 1998 by a chap called Gael Duval. He later formed a company called MandrakeSoft. Following its acquisition of Conectiva in 2005 Mandrake changed its name to Mandriva and, in the same year, Mandriva acquired Lycoris. In 2006 Gael was fired, apparently for cost-cutting reasons.

Mageia is the result of a split from Mandriva. Mageia is still finding its way, but could become the big 'community' distro. In the long term, I think most 'typical' Pardus users would likely feel pretty comfortable using Mageia.

Just so that you are not stuck with 'candidates' such as siduction or Slackware, (which actually belong in a top-ten or favourites category, rather than 'closest to Pardus'), I will offer a couple of 'not a million miles away from Pardus' distros:

Mepis: Stable and dependable. Does not 'intrude'. Quite quick. A few custom tools. Small, friendly forum. Nice 'handbook'.

Mandriva: Uncertain future/direction. Not a viable option as far as I am concerned.

PCLinuxOS: Have not used it for quite some time. Originally based on Mandrake. Nice monthly newsletter. 'MiniMe' edition was nice. 32bit only, but I think a 64bit is in the pipeline. Forum was not really receptive to suggestions/criticism. Lost a sizable number of devs/users.

OpenSUSE: Have tried it quite often since I first installed it in 1988. I want to like it - and it is cool - but it never feels truly 'comfy'. It may have YAST and One-Click, Tumbleweed etc, but, I don't know......... Forum could also be a bit more tolerant.

Chakra: Nice ideas/design. Custom tools. Has potential. Not yet 'prime-time'.

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I currently have Pardus (Anka64), Mageia and Mepis on my computer, I am gradually becoming less of a 'distro-hopper' nowadays (it's less interesting these days anyway) and will probably end up using either Mageia or Mepis long-term if Pardus/Anka fails.

Please feel free to correct me (anyone), if my Mandrake history is faulty.

Oh, regarding Distrowatch, I don't know of a better single resource.

EDIT: The 'history' was basically for the benefit of Dirse - but forgive me Dirse, if you knew those details. Also, here is a distro timeline Dirse:

http://futurist.se/gldt/

[daves]

Keep an eye on sabayon too. i think mandriva is better than mageia, the forum mageia is disinclined to accept suggestions and criticism too. Rosa can be another alternative. Another one can be salixos, it's a easy-to-use slackware-based distro. no one has mentioned opensuse?

[Anglo]

Just to add to the mix , Fatih Arslan reports on Chakra Linux Developement that they're working on using      " Kaptan" for the initial system configurations: http://chakra-project.org/bbs/viewtopic.php?id=8224


Pardus HAS made its presense and impact on Linux in general known

[daves]

Kaptan is one of the some software that made me fall in love for padus.

[Anglo]

All, please kindly note that if we really need a poll by the end of this month (i.e., if Mageia is not the closest to Pardus in anyones's opinion), I will continue preparing a final list. We need at least two (2) candidates. Otherwise, no need for a poll.

I am tired of this farce,,,,,,,,,,,,,,*WE* didn't call for this poll, *YOU* did.If you want to look at other candidates , no one is stopping you, nor asking for your opinion.

As to the maximum (10 (ten) poll options or less), I will be the judge of that according to what is all said hereabove, under this forum sub-heading (Time will tell). I can't include more than 10 (ten). So, beware when you pour out names of various distros. Try not to complicate things. Let's not waste people's time, including mine (this esp. goes to you, daves).

Better yet , stop wasting ours, stop playing judge , jury , and executioner, ( and perhaps a microsoft provocateur )